Level 86 - Ready 2 Rumble Boxing - Classic Midway Craziness!

Let's get ready to run me.
Fluff me, baby.

Fool me off a piece of my frown.
Cut me though, cut me. 16 outrageous boxers, nonstop
verbal assaults and me, Michael

Buffer, ready to rumble boxing
from Midway.

Welcome to Remember 64, where
this week we're back and ready to rumble.
Hello everyone, welcome to the show.
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We are playing and discussing
the good, the bad, the ugly and everything in between and the
N64's library.

My name is David Pietrangelo and
I am duking it out with the best of them.
With my fisticuffs.

I may not be able to train like
the best of them, but you better believe I can swing and
occasionally dodge like the best of them.
Do you look back?

Are you the best of them?
No, in fact, I may, I may very well be one of the worst of
them, but we'll get into that.

Is it of them or of them?
You know what I mean?

Like O of them, of them, of
them.

Of.
Them of them I was trying to say of them, but I'm.
Not sure an M and an F.

With with an M and like oven but
not like it.

But not at all.
Like that, but not like that at all.
Yeah, I don't know why my brain went that way, but that's OK.
I.

Guess no.
I I saw where you were going, I

I followed the path with you and
and it worked.

I think it worked.
Yes, it is 9:00 PM when we were recording.
This feels like 3:00 AM, but it's 9:00 PM.
It's one of those.

It's one of those days,
everyone.

Yeah, it's one of those days.
If you've been watching and listening over the last couple
months, or at least in the in the first few months of 2026.
Thank you for sticking with us.

Took about a month off or so for
just personal reasons and stuff, but hey, we're back.
We're in the swing of things and we thought we would literally
get in the swing of things by swinging our fists with Ready to
Rumble Boxing 2 games that came out year back-to-back in 1999
and 2000 across multiple platforms.
But of course, we're going to at least mostly cover the N64
versions, although there are other ones that will definitely
be coming up in our discussion throughout the episode here for
sure.

Just wanted to do a little bit
of housekeeping off the top before I forget 'cause I often
do if anyone hasn't seen yet.

And this is going to be an
ongoing series I want to keep keep going pretty regularly.
But on Patreon, I am starting a new series called a Commercial
success with a question mark in at the end there in in brackets.
So is it a success?

Is it not?
Oh, play on words.

Basically what I'm going to do
is I am sitting down and watching a couple of commercials
from N64 games that were outs anywhere in that span of the
life cycle of the console and just going to kind of poke fun
at them, see if they were any good.
Were they actually a success?

If I were to put MY19971999
shoes on, would that sell me on that particular game?
Would I want to rent it or buy it or play it?
Was it a commercial success and is it having fun?
Cause all of these commercials in the 90s, very 90s humor and,
and, and, and references and things like that.
So it's, they're quick episodes, they're video episodes.
I'm going to record them.

I'm not really like editing them
together or anything like that.

I'm just going to like hit play
and just sort of have my thoughts on a whim and then
leave it open for everybody to, to comment.
So the first three are going to be free to everybody on Patreon
and then they will be under the $1.00 tier for everybody to take
a look at after that to support the show.
So a little extra incentive on top of episodes being early,
some of our pre show chats and things like that.
So just look out for that right now up on patreon.com/remember
64 show that will be free for the first few weeks as of this
recording.

You'll probably have two of them
available and then we will go from there.
So just watch out for that.

I'll be sharing the link and all
that kind of stuff as time goes on.
So as of right now, we have some

Sergeant's Heroes commercials.
We have a wave race one, of course, a Banjo Kazooie 1.
So some heavy hitters to to start things off.
So take a look at that everybody.
And of course support the show if you want.
But as of right now, the first couple will be up for free for
everybody on Patreon.

So take a look out for that.
And other than that, like I did,

I think it was on the last
episode.

I just want to make sure that I
let everybody know that of course, Jiggy look back pretty
boppin discord over there buddy want to make sure that listeners
and viewers are nice place I.

Don't know what that means I.
Don't know what it means, but it's cool.
You know what?

It's original and that's it.
That's cool too.

That's cool that that's a place
that you can interact with Jiggy for sure.
And then also a bunch of his followers and fans and listeners
of ours as well so you can look back.
Discord is a place to go as well as console creatures as well.
If you want to interact with myself and the other fellow
console creatures members that talk about new games, old games,
movies, TVA, bunch of stuff.

So two places you can go to
interact with us and follow along and join some pretty cool
communities.

So it's going to say.
Wordle on mine.

So that's right.
Yeah.

You have like a Wordle thing.
Every once in a while I remember

I'm like, oh.
It's fairly addicting and like we have like, I don't even know,
like in a 105 day streak, I just had to look pretty impressive.
Yeah, as long as one person in the discord I think completes
it, it adds to the streak I think is what it is.
So at least.

I think I would say there's
consistently like 10 to 15 people that yeah, complete it
every day.

Yeah, I remember a couple days a
week and I'm like, Oh yeah, I should do this like, 'cause the
world was like a thing.

What was it in 2020 or 2021 when
it first sort of launched?

It was like the biggest thing
ever in the middle of everybody being home in COVID.
So that was cool.

And then now they have a yeah,
it's like integrated into into

Discord.
It's just a simple like click play and boom, you just play it
on the go kind of thing.

It's fun.
Yeah it's fun yeah just add a little bonus there for for
everybody anyways, Jiggy look back on Discord and console
creatures as well Sir let's talk about ready to rumble boxing
either one of these we can start wherever you'd like but any
history with these games know what they were don't know what
they are Nope when.

When saw them everywhere, never
played them.

Funny enough, I didn't really.
I don't think I realized that the second one was also on 64.
Oh yeah.

The first one I remember, but
these these to me as you put in the corner as we saw the
commercials, these are basically like what I consider Dreamcast
games, like in the same vein of like Crazy Taxi.
Like I feel like I always saw this with the Dreamcast.
Yeah, I think so.

There's something about it too,
where I knew that these games were out for this, but I
actually just pretty much associated them with with
Dreamcast just subconsciously, even though I never really
played very much of I I played a little bit of one of these, but
I honestly don't remember which one.
And it was at a friend's house on the Dreamcast.
So just that is I I think it was, I want to say it was the
second one, but I really don't remember because it was the base
characters and I don't, I didn't latch onto which one was which.
But yeah, the commercial at the top, that was a that was a
Dreamcast one.

If you're if you're just
listening, it's actually worth just searching it out.
It it was seeking it out.

It's actually a pretty good
commercial.

I like that they kind of mixed.
It does like the The Who frame

Roger Rabbit thing where you mix
real life with, with animated characters from the game and
stuff.

It's kind of funny.
It's goofy.

So yeah, so you went in pretty
blind.

You had you had nothing kind of
going in just knowing that they existed.
Yep.

Knowing.
That they existed.

That's it.
So did you.

Play on the 64 or were you
playing on Dreamcast?

Nope, I played on the 64 there.
You go.

Mostly because I can very easily
access access it on the 64 on the Dreamcast.
Nope, I have to.

I have to go seek it out.
Which actually I will say after playing it on 64, I think I want
to go play it on Dreamcast 'cause I like I had the thought.
I'm like man, I think this game would be even better is on
Dreamcast.

Like probably higher frame rate,
probably better graphics.

I was gonna say, is there a
reason for Yeah, yeah, that that makes sense.
I.

Mean it just seems like it would
this is a game because there's not much to it that would really
benefit from just having a big graphical like everything,
everything benefits from a graphical lift, but like because
there's not much to it to begin with and you're kind of focusing
more on those characters being able to see more emotion and
more, you know, detail in them would probably go a long way.
And I think frame rate matters too, because as much as you're
not, you know, you're not dodging or punching on like, you
know, on the pixels sort of thing.
It would sort of help when every once in a while I actually did
get a couple very brief dips in this.
Yeah, it it's, you know what, very, very brief on the second
one, not on the first one.

I was like, I didn't really
experience dips, but were you playing it on the analog?
So I so I didn't when I had that in 'cause I just was in a
different room and the analogue was beside me and stuff.
So if anyone hasn't heard, I got an analogue.
I don't know, I mentioned really briefly once a couple episodes
ago, but but that, that's, that's what I did after and I
did not experience it.

So I, I do think that it has to
do with an original hardware, sort of, yeah.
I didn't think to to test that out to try it.
It, it wasn't major.

It was a couple of times, like
right now I think, is this My

Plane 2?
No, this is the first one.

This is the first one.
It was, it was like this where it was a scene in like 1 of the
larger sort of arena type things.
And I can't remember which characters were fighting or not
fighting or whatever, but like it just happened to dip for two
seconds.

Like it didn't make a massive
difference, but it it did happen.
So yeah, yeah, 'cause you didn't get that, I guess 'cause you're
playing the analog, I assume.

No, I didn't get, I didn't get
any lift.

I didn't even think about that.
I was like, man, it it ran pretty smooth the whole time,
but it's.

Surprisingly, a a pretty like,
there's a lot going on in this game.
I actually want to go back to where was I just before.
Before I even get into the gameplay, we have to listen to
the to the intro music.

Oh yes, the intro.
The menu music, everyone, The menu music.
So let's OK, yeah, yeah, yeah,

OK.
Rights reserved.

Blah, blah, blah.
Midway 19 Midway, by the way, classic midway, this game.
But no question who else would have made this game at the time,
or at least published it anyway.

You know, midways logos.
Everywhere.

So I feel like they did more
than just let's.

Get.
Ready to new game?

Pretty, pretty damn good.
Pretty damn good.

I actually let it sit there
without doing any of like the selections or whatever.
It doesn't kick into like demo mode as some of these games do
until like a minute or two minutes later.
It let's it let's you sit there and listen to the music.
It's awesome, Yeah.

And the music's great.
I I honestly sat there on the menu just for a minute.
I was like.

Mm hmm.
Yep, Yep, Yep, this works.

This this tracks.
But to be honest, didn't Midway did Midway also do bug bumble?
No, they did not do bug Bumble.

That was Argonaut.
Let me just double check that.

They what are the what is the
list of midway games on the 64?

Oh OK, I will find that.
We've covered so many.

We'll find that so Argonaut
Games was a developer for Bug

Bumble, so we know that I don't
think publisher oh, Ubisoft published it.
So there you go.

Yeah, Ubisoft published it at
the time.

So Ubisoft and Argonaut
Software.

Here we go.
OK, now I see Midway.

The Midway list.
The Rush Games, Rampage, Quay,

Doom, Cruising USA, Paperboy,
Gex.

Oh Gex.
Oh.

Yeah, Gex 64 at least.
Yeah.

Yeah, so.
OK, Wayne Gretzky.

Hydro Thunder, Biofreaks.
Biofreaks.

Quake.
Yeah, they they did a lot.

Midway Studios San Diego did the
first one, looks like.

Yeah, Midway Studios San Diego
developed the first one.

Point of view must have been
something else.

That same studio is now part of
the THQ Nordic.

Like it when when Midway went
down.

That's their part.
Whether any of those people actually still work there.
That's kind of where that led to.
So they went on to I think it's them, but I'm pretty sure some,
I wrote it down here somewhere.

I think they went on to help
make like the Darksiders games if you played any of those.
But those are cool games too, especially the first two.
I haven't played the third one, but yeah, I mean, like there's
there's there's, there's some history.
I mean, it's, it's just the the goofiness of the game, the
bombastic sort of thing.

It almost feels like, yes, this
has to be Midway if you haven't played these games.
It is, I would say primarily a like a, like a typical boxing
game would be you're, you see both boxers on either side of
the screen and you're using your low punch or high punch, you're
heavy, you're light, you're blocking a bit, you're dodging
when you can and just try to knock your opponent down.
And then there's yeah, there's other mechanics in there, but
generally speaking it's what you would expect.
It's just more arcady and, and wild and everything.
And you know, I, I think for the most part they, they
accomplished what they wanted.

I just had a up and down time
with both of these games I don't know about.
You yeah, I mean, I really liked the the arcade mode I felt was
really easy to get in and just play a couple rounds and have
fun and it didn't seem overly challenging.
But though I I love the concept of the championship mode, I
found it really, really hard.

Right.
So arcade is part of what you would expect in many versus
games.

Doesn't matter if it's a boxing,
some sort of fighting, even racing, for example, you're just
basically going through the roster of of fighters.
You pick one, you go through roster of fighters and you just
try and beat everybody right And that's totally fine.
Like you said, like the the mechanics are the same no matter
what, and then the difference with championship mode, which we
can get into more details and stuff for too.
But like you pick one of those boxers, they start with lower
stats, you train them, you fight, you try to win titles.
It's more of like a semi story mode type of thing.
So it is a little bit more involved and stuff.
Did did you find that?

Like like did you do you like
the mechanics or the way it worked?
Like just just right, like the basis sort of of how the game
works even before we get into the detail of of those things,
like is it feel all right or is it kind of it it?
Felt OK.

I felt like I was progressively
getting better, but it does feel a little, I don't, I don't, I
don't know how to describe it other than like I feel like I'm
pressing a button and it's not quite doing what I want it to do
or what I think it's going to do.
And it it's like you have to have the combination of like
putting the joystick in a certain direction and hitting
the button, but it doesn't ever.

Eventually you get to a point
where your muscle memory sort of kicks in a little bit, but it's
not very intuitive.

Like you have to keep like
working at it and actually like remember that?
Oh yeah.

If I hold left of the joystick
and hit the the left C button and I time it just right, I do a
sort of like swing down hook.

Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say like
a down hook is exactly what I was.
Gonna say yeah it's it's once you can fully grasp that it gets
easier.

But I feel like when I first got
in here, it's like, forget dodging, you're not gonna be
able to dodge.

Like I don't understand.
The CPU is like so unfair with that because you opt in and they
dodge like all your attacks and you like move to the left and
they just punch you in the face.

Like you're like, like you move
into their fists.

And it's like no matter what you
do, they're just like locking into you.
So I don't know unless unless you're psychic and have some
sort of like precognitive like.

Yeah.
Temporal understanding of where their hand is going to be.
You're not going to be dodging.

Yeah, I think, I think the dodge
thing is there for, you know, it makes sense that it's there that
that that's part of the game 'cause you're using the C
buttons, you're low and high punches and the direction of the
joy cyclic.

You mentioned this sort of pick
how and where you want to swing the dodgy.
It's just it's so it's such a frantic like fast game because
like like I was just saying like it's midway.
It's kind of what you would expect is for the speed and the
craziness of it.

Like it does really feel that
very arcady, no matter how you play it, that dodging something
you do, like you said, I think you do have to like somehow you
have to know that that's what's coming and I know I understand
that's that's just fighting.

I guess that's just boxing I
guess, but everything is too fast to do that.
I I just every once in a while blocked, but even that was very
not always the most helpful.

I felt like just going to flat
out offense was still the most effective.
You don't, you don't, you can't just mash buttons because
there's a stamina bar.

Like there are a lot of games
like this.

So you can't just keep swinging
because you do less and less damage every time you do that.
So you can't just mash and everything, but still focusing
on just your stamina bar and what offensive move you want to
do.

That's kind of what you need to
do.

That's kind of it, yeah.
It's a lot of.

I didn't pay as much attention
to the stamina bar until I got into the championship mode
because I feel like arcade mode

I it wasn't really that big of a
deal, Like I could kind of because you recover it really
fast.

Yes, because everyone's stats
are whatever their stats are.

Yeah, in comparison.
Yeah, that's true.

I tried a couple different
boxers too.

I know I had the list of all the
names.

Some of the names are kind of
fun, so I should pull those up.

And there is a there is a
difference.

There is a difference in the
boxes.

I don't know if you noticed
that.

Felt like there was.
Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I, I thought it was just
going to be one of those, OK, maybe the big guy's a little
slower.

And then of course, the sort of,
what's his name?

Afro Thunder?
Is that what his name is?

That's sort of like.
Mascot character, I guess from the commercial he is a big Afro.
I bet if you've never played these games and you've seen the
cover, you know exactly who this guy is.
Just just by that.

I mean, if you've never touched
the game before, that guy's super fast, which you didn't
realize.

And then there's a lot of in
between guys.

The move sometimes look slightly
different, which is kind of interesting.
While you try to, I'm going to throw it to you for one SEC
while you try to remember which guys you played as, I'm going to
pull up the roster.

Oh, I'll tell you which one was
my favorite.

And I liked Selua.
Who was he was from?

I'm trying to remember what the
announcer said he said or something.
And I was like, that's funny.

It rhymes.
Something Hawaii or something,

Yeah.
And yeah, he was really cool because he was like really big.
And even though he was big, he could hit really fast.
Like he did really fast little jabs.
So just picture like essentially like a sumo wrestler looking
person.

And he's like with little
punches.

But he was actually good.
I I, I thought, and what is the there was a guy that was really
funny.

He cracked me up.
He his name was like Sir

Wilmington or Sir Willie or
something, and he had like a big mustache.
Big mustache, yeah.

Yeah, and he.
He's like 60 or 70 or something.

You read it, it's name it said.
I think it said some stupid like a he was 175 years old or
something.

Oh, there it is.
He's Big Willie Johnson.

Big Willie Johnson, Doesn't it
say something stupid for his age?
At least in the first one it says he's 41 but they make him
look like he's way older.

Maybe I maybe I just misread
that and read a stat.

I'm not dyslexic, but that's
yeah, it's.

Distinctly possible that that's
what happened.

Yeah.
Yeah.

I'd be like, what?
At least in the first one it says that.
The second one it could be different.
No, I'm probably just an idiot.

But it's so funny they say he's
4, which, OK, you know, all of these guys are 2522, whatever,
stuff like that.

Characters of that.
This guy says 41 and part of the description is emphasis on the
old, as he was originally the oldest character in the series,
one of the original 17.

Like Oh my God, emphasis on old.
I'm not that far from 41.

What the fuck?
Old God damn it.

So there's that.
There's Boris the bear Nakamov from Zagreb, Croatia.
That's the guy that we're seeing right now on the screen.
The left side blonde guy.

That's the one that I picked.
He felt a little bit of like right down the middle kind of
thing.

I think that's why I landed on
on using his style.

Same thing as you were just
saying like he looks like he's a little bit on the bigger side,
but but definitely hits, hits pretty hard.
I noticed that his stamina meter doesn't fill as fast, but I was
actually OK with that because I kind of got in a bit of a groove
of the way.

I found success was like nail a
couple decent punches and then step back one or two times or
block one or two times and then swing again.
And that felt to be the most successful.
Not maybe not consistently, but it felt to be at least the most
consistent for me.

So that that's kind of why I
just went with that.

Sort of, yeah.
I was not doing good with him.

He had a dead arm and you can
see it here.

He looks like he just has one
arm just laying at his side at all times and he barely moves
it.

Like I said, Salua, man.
I came in and I was like jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, dodge,
upward cut, big heavy hit downward and it was like I would
take out my opponents just left and right.
I was like, this is great.

He was the best.
Yeah.

So it says here, at least when
I'm looking up here, it says he's technically listed because
they all have stats like their age, their height, their reach,
like you would with with boxing and stuff.
It says he's the heaviest character in the game at 358 lbs
apparently, but he is not the slowest.
So there you go.

Oh.
Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah, so there you go.
So you notice the the difference right there.
So that's exactly it is Angel

Raging Rivera from Monterrey,
Mexico.

That guy was kind of fun.
He kind of does some wacky moves and dances around and stuff like
that.

So he's another one of the
characters that's kind of like on the cover or a couple of the
covers and stuff too.

Couple female characters.
Celine Strike, I liked her.

She was really fun to play.
I I played, I'll talk about this in a little bit, but I played
her a lot in the GBA version of.

This.
Game or of the second one at least she's in that just fast
like that sort of she's like the fast nimble one like the Afro
Thunder character is.

And I think that was kind of fun
to have a difference of the two that I was playing so that but
that's where I mostly landed.

And then Lulu Valentine's
another one talked about the old guy already and the first game
has some unlockable guys but no one too too crazy.
We'll get to that second game.

We'll get that to that in the
second one in a bit.

But so did you did you make it
through arcade?

Like we're able to sort of get
get a bit of a groove going and kind of make some progress in
that, or at least.

Yeah, I I made some good
progress in arcade.

I just did not make a lot of
good progress in the championship mode arcade.
Like I said, I've I've popped in

Salua and I felt like I was
really like understanding the mechanics at that point using
the rumble mode, which is a thing, Rumble mode basically.
I don't know how you get a letter.
It's like if you land a solid hit or something.
I think, yeah, I think so basically instead of like a
turbo meter, I guess, or I guess it is kind of like a turbo
meter, but in order to like build up a bar at the bottom you
spell out the letters rumble and

I think other Midway games have
similar ideas to this.

Each hit is RU, MB, L, so it
spells it out.

Once you do that, you hit
whatever combination of buttons it is and it's just AB together.
Yeah.

And your gloves glow and you
have unlimited stamina.

I think is is pretty much.
What it yeah, you also hit harder though.
Do you hit a harder though?

Yeah, you can hit a little
harder 'cause you can I think you can buy you can almost
bypass blocking.

So you just go in and and it's
it really focuses more on like multi hit like combos, like
you're just like.

But you're definitely faster,
yeah.

Yeah, it's, it's just all around
it.

Just pump pumps up your stats
for like 10 seconds.

Yeah, it's not outrageous.
I found that it didn't.

Like you might, you might win
around, you might get a couple of solid punches in, but it's
not like automatically game over either.
I actually thought when I was facing my opponent and they get
the rumble mode, I'm like, I'm just gonna back away.
And I would just dancer on the mat until they lost their Rumble
and then I'd go back in.

Yeah, because it's so quick, you
could actually pull that off.

Yeah, that's, that's the
difference.

Yeah.
So my problem with this, this was one of the notes that I
wrote down is, is I like the idea of it, the execution of it.
I actually think unfortunately doesn't quite work for me
because you can still get hit, which OK, you're not invincible,
but I found when I got further along into the championship, at
least when I got Rumble, the the

CPU just decided, well, I'm just
going to start comboing you.

So I'm swinging like crazy.
And I'm, I was, maybe it's just the way I was playing and stuff
too, but I was going for heavier hits because you're able to and
your stamina doesn't drain and whatever.
So I was like, oh, go for it.

But in between those heavier
hits, they're just giving me quick shots in the face and my
health is going down just as fast.
And I'm like, oh, come on.

Like I feel like maybe not
invincible, but maybe like your, your defense could go up a tiny
bit too.

Otherwise you're also just kind
of dancing around more than you should.
I don't know it I, I don't know.

Maybe I just.
Sucked.

I don't know.
Actually, we got to hear that because part of part of the
advertising in the game that you might have heard at the top and
part of how they sold this game was the Michael Buffer.
I think that was that his name or wrote it down.
Yes, Michael Buffer is the is the infamous or the famous guy
that says let's get ready to rumble.
We heard on the top.

It is like it's the name of the
game.

They have his likeness and his
voice in this, and I think it's great.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, let's.
Get ready to rumble so good.

From Zagreb, Croatia, wearing
the blue trunks with black trim and weighing in at 220 lbs.
The Invincible Forest the bear

Knock them off side of Enhanced
Superior training.

From San Diego, CA wearing the
burgundy trunks with the red and gold trim and weighing in at 243
lbs.

The bruiser?
Bruce Blade.

Bruce Blade.
Bruce Blade.

There's nothing to say.
No, he's wearing a freaking helmet.
That's not legal.

Yeah.
Is this like an unlockable that

I didn't get to or something?
I don't know.

This person is playing the
Championship mode that we're watching, so maybe.
Oh, look, he's got like a like a

Superman punch.
Whoa, Bruce Blade's got some sick.
Whoa.

Spinner Rooney.
I'm pretty sure all of these moves are illegal in boxing, but
that's OK.

I just watch the guys swoop
around and smack them in the back of the head.
I'm like, yeah, OK.

And here we go.
We got advertisements in the back like we have with other
games, like the three DO games that we've pointed out in the
past, other Midway games.

We've got a Hydro Thunder in the
back.

NFL.
Blitz, off road, challenge or off road, whatever it is, off
road Thunder I think it is.

What's the middle thing?
Oh, yeah.

OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

I was like, is that a picture of
Elvis Presley?

It's like random.
That's.

What he looks, it does look
like.

It actually kind of does.
Or like some sort of like

Sinatra thing or something.
Yeah.

Yeah.
So that's what both these games,

I found that the sound was good,
the music's fun.

Those types of things work.
Yeah.

This goes for the Arcady, you
know, Arcady action kind of thing, right?
So I think that works.

Did you spend more time with the
first or the second?

Did it matter?
Feeling first one OK?

I ended up doing the opposite.
I spent a little bit more time, not, I wouldn't say a ton more
time, but I spent more time with the second one, mostly because I
fired it up when I saw a couple things that I wanted to try to
unlock, which we'll get to in a second.
And I used that because I put it, I, I, I played a bit on the
original that I put on the, on the thing on the analog on the
Everdrive and, and loaded it up and stuff.
And then I realized right away, maybe my eyes deceived me or
maybe it's because it was automatically on the analog and
it was like the character models and stuff looked way better.
No, they're better.

Like incredibly better.
I'm going to get to the intro of the second one too, because
unfortunately it is not as good.

Oh, there it is that popped.
Up now, it's working.

Can you hear it now?
Yep, it's been a few.

Weeks.
New game?

Well, a lot of the setup of this
is very similar.

I would say that the game is
largely the same, aside from some of the stuff you do in the
championship mode for the training and all that.
This particular game, the jump rope, I sucked at it.
I could not understand how to do it.
It was terrible.

Bro, I suck at all.
I've been waiting to talk about the training things.
I suck at all of them.

Like let's.
Talk about the training 'cause that's a big part of what the
the championship thing is, is you spend just as much time, if
not more, training your boxer.

And they have, I don't know,
like 5 or 6 different ones I think.
Yeah, that's why I I sucked the very first one.
I was getting really frustrated, which is it's the I think you're
just throw, you're just, it's not speed bag.
You're like throwing jabs and you have to like you're just
standing there and it's like a

Disney sing along and it does a
little like dot across the screen across the button you
need to press.

I couldn't figure out the timing
for the life of me.

It's like press when you're
about to hit.

And so I hit it and it was like
it wouldn't, I would just miss everything.
I'm like, OK, my rhythm's not that bad.
Like what is going on here?

This is not the Blues Brothers
game that didn't make any sense whatsoever that we played not
long ago.

So anyways, I yeah, it sucked
and I was.

Yeah, the training, the training
one, the only one that I did like, I don't know if we'll get
it here in the video is, and I don't remember if this is also
in the first one where it has, I think it's, is it 4 on each side
or six pads on each side that have corresponding buttons to
it?

Yeah.
Oh, I think it's, I think it's eight.
Yeah, I think.

And they also have in in the
Game Boy version as well.

But basically it's just you
press the corresponding button to it.
It gets faster.

Sometimes you press 2 at once.
It's just the easiest one to understand.
Yeah, the timing gets a little faster and things do get a
little bit more challenging and stuff.
But a lot of the other ones, like you said, there's timing
based.

There's these ones here where
you have to like like memorize which which move is which and
and remember that like the left jab is this plus this and right
jab is this plus this and back is this and it's just I, I don't
like games like that anyways.

And then this is they don't make
it easy either 'cause like you really have to be fast on this.
And I do think that the I don't know if it's input lag.
I don't know what the heck the

OR or just both not good at it
but I just I sucked at these things like I just did not do
well aside from the one.

Yeah, I mean could be input leg,
probably not.

I was cheesing that first sing
along thing by just tapping the button I needed to press
repeatedly and for some reason that would register it.
And I'm like, OK.

Yeah, the jump rope thing is, is
like there's, there's, I think it's just the C buttons.
I think even if it's not, it doesn't matter.
It's falling from from top to bottom and it gets in like this
little basket almost that you have to hit the button at the
right time for the guy to actually do the jump or
whatever.

And I tried multiple approaches
to it just before, right at right after, like what match the
button like nothing.

Nothing worked.
Nothing worked.

And every time I wanted to just
do that type of training for that specific stat, I was like,
because you can do it either manually or you can do it
automatic.

It gives you a little bit less
of a training boost if you do it automatically, but at least you
get something out of it.

That's what I went with, unless
I was doing this particular one here where you hit the hit the
buttons, corresponding buttons.

Like I said, that's it.
Otherwise, I just want to fight just.
Yeah, it feels like a missed opportunity to spend some more
time on those mini games to make it really cool.
Because like if you were hitting a speed bag and you could just
do whatever combo you wanted to and like, it would maybe tell
you you're damaged or something and you'd be trying to like
gain, like do more damage in quick succession or something.
Like something a little more engaging than Simon's.
Like a momentum.

Bar or something like.
That, yeah, something I don't know, they could have made it a
lot more fun and not as frustrating.
And unfortunately, the mini games are essential to the
championship mode 'cause you need to raise the stats of your
character, which is why I liked

Arcade better, because arcade
you could get in, just play and your character has stats.
It's like championship mode.

Your character is like zeroed
out, they have like no stats.

So you go in and fight.
If you go and do a fight, you're just dominated because of stats.
Yeah, just that alone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it has like a little calendar and it's like here is 2 weeks or
whatever The thing is, a month or something to train your
fighter.

It could take you like 20
minutes to half an hour to sort of do that if you did it all,
you know, manually and stuff like that, which is a little bit
of a pain being an arcade game that you want to sort of get in
and get out and sort of, you know, sure, there's multiplayer,
but if you're playing on your own, I would, I would have
wanted something more than this.

I look at, I look at what
they're doing and I'm like, oh,

I, I think this is, this is a
cool idea, but an execution.

It doesn't really work.
And then I look in comparison to a game like I'm looking at,
let's let's say the second one that came out very close to when
No Mercy, when WWF No Mercy came out that has extensive story
modes in it for every single belt for eight different belts
that you can go through and has multiple paths that you can take
depending on if you win or lose on it.
And yeah, it's not a training, but like, that's that's what I
want is some some way to do that, You know, give me a this
is what my career is.

I lost this match.
Now I have to face this person or I lost this match.
Now I have to train to do this or something like, you know, I
know, I know sort of, you know,

WWFWWE like wrestling is
different than what I what they're trying to do with
boxing, obviously.

But like that could have just
worked.

It could have worked so much
better when they're like they're already like halfway there.
I just the training was it's it's more of a slog.
It doesn't.

It doesn't add enough to the
game unfortunately.

Yeah, I would just settle for
the mini games.

Even working right.
That'd be great.

I think that's where I was at.
It was like first to be too generous, eh?
I was.

Like maybe maybe they wouldn't
even be that bad if like the timing wasn't a stupid Disney
sing along that didn't work.

So what's worse, this or that
Blues Brothers one that we have to deal with?
Oh gosh, I don't know.

I, I, I immediately thought of
that because if anyone hasn't listened to us play Blues, Blues
Brothers 2000 a couple months ago, early this year, they have
the sort of like a mini game where you run into someone and
you have to do these like dance moves for some stupid reason.
And the timing of it is just so off based on the music.
It's terrible.

You know what?
I think this is worse and I'll stand by it because the Blues
Brothers one is terrible.

Like it's not fun and it doesn't
match up with the music.

But when I press the button, it
works.

And this one, it's like when I
press the button, it doesn't work.
When I mash the button, it might work.
So I don't know, choose your poison, the one you just sort of
ignore what's happening on screen and what you're hearing,
and you just do it whenever you want.
This one, it's like you can't ignore what's on screen, but
you're not going to hit it anyways, so.
So what's the difference?

What's the difference?
That's true, Yeah, yeah.

Pick your poison, everyone.
That's pretty much it.

Yeah, again.
So the second one is pretty much the same as far as the core
gameplay goes.

Did you notice anything
different?

I I didn't notice anything
remarkably different.

I found the animation a little
bit better.

I thought immediately that the,
the character animations were, sorry, the character models
were, were just cleaner and just better.
And I was like, whoa, like, and

I swear I like immediately put
it in and I said to myself, whoa, this looks better.
Like I talked to myself in my in this room, in my basement.
Wowzer Jiminy Dilliker's B Knock em off.
Wait yeah, knock em off right?

Knock em off, Knock em off.
Looks great and all they do it definitely has a graphical
uplift.

The the animations and the
characters are better too.

Like you see more details in
like like the hair and stuff sort of moves like there's like
physics.

It bounces around a little.
Bit in the first game, really, it's very interesting.
It almost feels like they got better at 'cause I'd be curious
to see what the original game looks like on Dreamcast, because
it almost feels like stuff they had in that version that maybe
they were able to sort of dumb down and bring over to the 64
version in the second game.

But I yeah, pretty much.
I mean, the highlight for #2 really is the the character
roster.

Yeah, the character roster's
bigger.

There's a couple extra that are
better.

I the the other thing, what was
I just gonna say?

Oh, the thing that they I, I
don't believe this is in the first one.
I have to.

I have to find that.
I thought I took a note of it, but maybe not.
Is that also in the second one?

I noticed because I played more
of it.

So I noticed it more than this.
The more you or the CPU get beat up, you have to have bruises on
your face and stuff, which is kind of cool.
So like, you know, it's.

It's a cool touch.
Like, that's a nice yeah, exactly.
It's a nice little touch.

It doesn't, you know, Mark like
chain core part of the game, but like, hey, that's cool, like.
And the rumble don't necessarily need or.
Expect it, but it but it's it's interesting to have.
So yeah.

So October of 2000 was when this
came out for 64 the second one.

So almost exactly a year later,
another one of those really quick turn around things, but
the roster jiggy.

Why is the roster so interesting
in the second one?

Well, let me ask you a few
questions.

First off, what do you know of
the United States of America and our presidencies, our
presidents?

Well, we're talking about, let's
talk about the 90s.

Who was president in the 90s?
Which which?

Individual would you associate
with the presidency in the 90s in the US?
OK, what?

What individual would?
You now what individual, especially in modern day and
let's say, let's say he said individual also had a wife.
And let's say these individuals may or been may or may not have
been connected to a certain man who had an island and may or may
not have been in some sort of like disposition slash.
I don't know what you want to call it.
Something.

Whatever.
Thrilled about stuff and they wanted it to be filmed and then
they were mad that somebody was filming and they they're 2 faced
horrible people.

Everyone knows it.
This is this is my favorite path ever to a question.
And little did you know that they also like boxing.
That's right, everybody.

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton
are in this game.

And not just them, We also have
junior guest appearances.

Jiggy, let me ask you, if you
listen to music in the 80s, which obviously I know you did
throughout the entire 80s for sure, is there a certain Prince
that you would call Prince of a certain type of music, King of a
certain type of music, but not

Prince himself.
It was someone else.

Every once in a while this
individual had something similar to an island that you were just
referencing but wasn't quite an island.
It just, you could, you could call it that if you wanted to,
but also everyone loved them and then now you don't know if you
should or not.

Yes, I don't.
Know who I could possibly be talking to?
Ozzy Osbourne, Actually you could.
If you went back one decade, you probably actually could kind of
do that.

Yeah, yeah.
Michael Jackson's also in this.

Yeah, Michael Jackson.
And guess what?

It doesn't end there because we
have one more special guest.

Let me ask you something.
Do you like men?

Let me end it there.
Do you like men?

No, You look like giant men who
hold normal water bottles, and it makes it look like it's a
tiny little water bottle.

And do you know how many people
can actually pull that off?

Has.
The largest purchase order in

Walmart history.
Actually, that's hilarious.

Yes he does.
He does indeed Mr. BI love how to top him, but he can't.
I I love how the tiny water bottle thing is where what you
went to 1st.

Yeah, hates Charles.
Barkley If this person is known for anything, it's how small
water bottles look in their hand.
Yes, that's right.

Let.
Me ask you this, let me ask you this if you if you if you found
the lamp in a broken down building in the 90s and and
rubbed it and thought, you know what maybe I'm going to get a
genie out of this.

What genie do you expect to pop
out of that that also has very mediocre, if not terrible raps
to associate you with in a very terrible movie.
Who who would that be?

I don't know who that could.
Sinbad.

Sinbad.
Actually, you know how great it would be if Sinbad was in this.
It would be incredible, but.

He's not.
Oh, was he kind of forgotten by 2000?
Maybe he was.

I don't.
Know Shaq is back, baby.

Yeah, so Shaq is also in this.
So you got the Clintons, you got

Michael Jackson, and he got
Shaq.

They're all unlockable
characters in this.

Yeah, somewhat surprisingly, it
I unless I wrote this down wrong, Michael Jackson's the
easiest one to unlock, which I figure would be the hardest.
Why would you figure Michael

Jackson would be the hardest?
Because it's Michael Jackson, because it's like he's he's the
he's the King of Pop.

Like I was referencing before I
say Prince of Pop, but it's actually king of it's at this
time.

Still, I know this is before he
died.

This is before a lot of the
stuff that we know about him or suspect about him now has is
wasn't out there quite yet in the same way.
At least I just it's there's something about it being Michael
Jackson, being that person that was the biggest star in the
world for like 1520 years, if not longer because he was an
artist when he was a kid too.

Like, I don't know, it just
feels like there's something about you saying it's it seems
more outrageous to me that M JS in this Michael Jackson, not
Michael Jordan.

That would be even better than
the Clintons to me.

I don't know why, but it feels.
You know what it doesn't to me?

Because I played Space Channel 5
on my Dreamcast and Michael

Jackson is also in that game.
Is he really?

I didn't know that.
He is.

He is.
So in that game you go around for those who don't know, and
you're doing like rhythm.

You're basically like doing
rhythm hits with certain inputs on the controller.
And as you do it, you're like defeating aliens and stuff.
And so Michael Jackson, you just at one point, like have an
option to save him or not save him and defeat the aliens around
him.

And then he joins you like, and
you're like walking through the level.
And as you walk through the level, like everybody's dancing
and Michael Jackson just joins in on the dancing.
It's so funny.

And it's his actual voice too.
Like he actually voiced his character.
And he does it in this game too.

Apparently he did mocap for this
and yeah, and well, he has his own video game.
I, I don't know really too, too much about it, just know it
exists.

Moonwalker.
Moonwalker.

Yeah, Moonwalker did mocap and
did voice for this as well, which is so funny 'cause every
time I hear something like that,

I know like there was this sort
of like, oh, Michael Jackson loves video games kind of thing.
I mean, he's he's, he's a kid.

That's what they always do.
He's always a kid.

Whatever I love, I.
Just I love video games.

Video games.
There is there is some of that too in this for sure.
I'm actually going to find that because we're I pulled it up.
Here we go.

Let's just we're talking about
it.

Let's just pull it up.
Yeah, or PlayStation.

There's PlayStation.
Look at that video and technique.
Pretty cool.

Hey, where's Michael Jackson?
Here we go, Michael.

You came in.
The title's mine.

Don't you know who you're
messing with?

From Monterrey, Mexico.
Does his dance.

He's got his.
I think that's the Moonwalker outfit, isn't it?
I think that's what he's wearing.
One of his gloves, of course, is silver.
Because it has to be your bedazzled or whatever you want
to call.

It sure he has rules, I'm sure
like this.

Is.
How I want to appear?

Yes, yeah, for sure.
Anyways, I meant I was saying about the the voice acting thing
is because I don't know if this has changed, but until up until
that point, up until the episode where Michael Jackson, or at
least the person that's supposed to act like Michael Jackson in
The Simpsons was the only celebrity, they never actually
got to record 'cause he said no.

And that was in like, I want to
say it was in 95 or 96 or something.
So like, you know, it's still

Michael Jackson prime time here.
We're pretty close to that.

And it was the only person up
until that point that did not did not give their likeness or
their or record their voice for

The Simpsons.
So when he says, hey, I did mocap and I did my voice, boom,
that's cool.

Not something you're gonna get
too often.

So he's the easiest to unlock
because you need to go through arcade.
I think it what did I write down?
3 * 5 five where is it?

Michael Jackson twice, it's been
arcade twice and Shaq, you have to be arcade five times.
So in comparison, there's that.

But I think Shaq is like he hits
harder and things like that.

So maybe that's that's part of
the reason why.

So I did unlock Michael Jackson.
That's one of the thing, one of the reasons why I kept going in
round two as opposed to the first one.
And he he feels like one of the fast characters, but hits a
little bit harder.

So it's not cool.
I don't think he feels like a like an OP character or anything
like that, but but definitely seems a little bit better than
some of the others.

But yeah, this is the
PlayStation version we're watching right now, I'm pretty
sure.

So it's fun, but it's crazy that
the roster is even like that.

Like let's be.
Honest, so silly.

It's the silliest roster.
It's like one of those fake rosters you you would have seen
for like Smash Bros and like a random. *** Oh, there we go.
He's fighting Shaq.

April Fools, Michael Jackson
versus Shaquille O'Neal.

Yeah, Shaq is 7 foot 10.
That's another thing I wanted to point out all these matches as
someone who I'm not a regular boxing.
Me neither.

I do occasionally watch some
matches 'cause if it's some, if it's someone I like I hear about
a fight or something, I'm like that, that sounds cool.
I might go watch it 'cause I, I just enjoy it Every time I watch
it.

I'm like, I could get really
into this.

But seeing these these fighters
come in like Michael Jackson at 5-10, I don't know how much he
weighed.

Probably like 150 lbs versus
Shaquille one and like almost 400 lbs.
You're like, OK, this is a fair match.
Even the way the camera is on him is like down to the ground.
Like, yeah, like he's a like he's a Titan.
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's, it's the, what do they call it?
The, the, not the ticker tape, or maybe it is a ticker tape or
something where they, it's, they, they show everybody's
measurements, your reach, your height, your weights, your
weight class, of course.

And I don't know that it
actually makes a massive difference in the, in the games.
I I didn't notice anything.

I think it's more about like
power and speed.

It doesn't too much.
It's just like one of those things.
I'm like, this would never happen.
This is a silly.

Game well, they've been a
completely different weight class right?
That's the.

Thing that's the difference so.
So I also had, I, I sent you a picture a couple days ago too,
where I did a little extra homework, which I try to do when
games are, are in this sort of field.
I guess you could call it is there's a Dreamcast version,
there's a PlayStation version, which we've now we've talked
about those ones and I'm, I sort of hinted at that.
I also played the handheld versions of this.
There's a Game Boy Color and

Game Boy Color of the first one
and Game Boy Advance of the second one that are out.
So immediately I thought I'd try the Game Boy Color one and it's
fine.

It's, it's OK, It's very basic
and Oh my God, did you just see that punch that?
He said.

I did.
That was incredible.

Michael Jackson just punched
Shaquille O'Neal into the ceiling of the arena and out of
bounds.

Yeah, OK, we're going to put the
sound on for this too, because I didn't see this at any point and
I definitely could not pull it off myself.
So This is why people, you get people have to watch this.
You ain't seen nothing yet.

Hey, I got to do this game for a
real match.

Hilarious.
He gives him a couple of quick punches in the face like a speed
bag and then uppercuts them and he goes flying backwards in like
backward somersaults over and out of the arena, essentially
very midway.

OK, so I played.
Yeah.

So I played the game by color
version.

It's fine.
I didn't really feel like I needed to play more of it.
I played a few rounds.

I'm like, OK, I kind of get it.
Only so much you can pull off.

It's kind of like playing an NES
version of these games.

It's kind of what it felt like,
very basic, similar ideas, but you only have two buttons and
and the arrows, you can't really pull off the same type of stuff.
So it's fine.

GBA wasn't bad.
I actually played quite a bit of it.
It's, you know, there is a 3D aspect to it.
You can technically go left to right and, and spin around like
you can in this.

I don't know that it makes a
massive difference and it's a little bit hard to pull off
because it kind of slows you down a bit.
But the mechanics work exactly the same as far as your rumble
meter and how you want to throw your punches.
The L and the R shoulder buttons work the same way.
There's no, there's no Z or Z button under it.
But like other than that, like you don't really even need to
use that anyways.

Everything else works the same.
Press 2 buttons when you get the rumble, you get your stamina up
and your and your damage, and it has pretty much everything that
that these games actually do on the 64 just on the GBA.
So even the championship mode operates the same way where you
have training, you have your your calendar, your fights.
I think it's a little bit faster like it you don't have to train
as much and stuff, but it's the same thing.
Like it's the essentially the same game.
They just fit what they could onto a smaller cartridge.
And I found that it actually because these games basically
play very similarly.

The first and the second one on
on on the console.

I didn't actually notice a
massive difference on the GPA surprisingly, but it's a little
bit chunkier.

It doesn't look as good,
obviously, but like they pulled off as much as you could
possibly pull off with this.

And I was, I was pretty
impressed.

I had fun and I think I was
better at it.

I don't know if that's because
it was simpler, but I think I was better at it.
So maybe that's why I liked it more.
Oh my God, less.

But Jackson did it.
He did it again.

Well, less, but not really
because there's shoulder buttons.
The shoulder buttons and X&Y&A&B act like your punches.
So A&B are your, are your are your low punches, X&Y or
whatever.

However, the orientation is are
the same and then L&L&R are your blocks.
So it actually operates almost exactly the same way.
No, but the Game Boy Advance only has two buttons, A&B.
Oh, never mind.

Never mind.
Yeah.

I'm like, what are you talking
about?

I'm like, never mind.
It doesn't.

I'm like wait a second, what am
I thinking of it?

But it OK, so.
Dave secretly pulled out his

Nintendo Switch.
No, I was, I was thinking of what's it called.
The Ambernick device I have has an X&Y on it as well.
That's why.

That's why so I was actually
able to use those buttons instead of the shoulder buttons.
But the way the game played plays the same way anyways.
It's.

Cool.
It's I just.

Was fully featured and I would
say, I would say that it doesn't have all the same training, but
the training wasn't as much of a pain in the ass.
Nice.

Yeah.
So doesn't last as long.

It probably has the same
difficulty curve I would say and stuff.
The Game Boy Color version has the built in rumble cartridge,
which could have been cool.

I like when games had that, when
they had that opportunity to do that.
And I wrote down that Crawfish

Interactive was the game, was
the company that developed the two games.
And I was like, that sounds somewhat familiar.
And that's because they did a whole bunch of ports for the
GBA, including one that I actually have in my little Game
Boy pouch behind me on my shelf,

X-Men Mutant Academy, which is a
fighting game.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and I don't know if I played the console version.
I don't even know if the name is exactly the same, but I, I have
that that Game Boy Color game and stuff.
And, and it's fun.

It's cool.
It's X.

Men Academy Dave, don't you know
that one of my favorite fighting games of all time is X-Men Next
Dimension on the The X-Men

Mutant Academy.
Oh, so we've definitely talked about this time because I did
know that that was like your favorite.
Yeah, it's such a stupid, silly game.
I love it for similar reasons that I like.
I actually like this game.

It's just over the top with the
abilities and, like, hitting characters and stuff.
Like, yeah, although this

Michael Jackson move has gotten
me, like, pretty sold on this being the better of the two.
He's done at the three guys in a row now.
It must be like I.

Thought the games were were
pretty fun though.

Like at at their core.
Like I definitely missed out on these.
They're silly, over the top, don't take them too seriously,
just fun.

I definitely feel I still feel
even looking at these.

I don't know how to explain.
It's like these are meant to be played on Dreamcast.
It just maybe that's just ingrained in my brain because
that's just what I thought when

I was a kid.
I'm like, that's a Dreamcast game.
They exist on all these different consoles, but in my
mind I'm just like Dreamcast, like.
I I actually don't know if I even knew this was out on
PlayStation.

I didn't know it was on
PlayStation.

Yeah, I, I, it kind of makes
sense 'cause it's one of those like it's on everything, you
know, Midway also.

And we're talking PlayStation 2,
by the way.

Yes, well, the the second one, I
think the first one's on the first PlayStation I believe.
I don't know.

I don't think it was, no.
I think the second one, the second one came on PlayStation
2.

The second one did.
The first one's on three.

First one?
No, the first one is.

Isn't that and I thought it was
Game Boy and 64 on Dreamcast?

So the very first one is
Dreamcast 64 PlayStation.

I think it's on PlayStation.
Yeah, the second one is on PS2.

The second one, that's what it
looks like, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, this is yeah, this
is definitely PS2 footage.

This one is Yeah, this one is
PS2 footage.

You can tell by the opening
motion video, whole motion video, and.
Then the characters just yeah, they look, they look better and
stuff and it's just how it goes.

Yeah, I think, I think if I if I
would have played this or, or had people like I like I said, I
think I briefly played this at someone's house and stuff.
I don't even know if they owned it or rented it, whatever on
Dreamcast, but could have been pretty cool to play this
multiplayer and have this be it's a fighting game like it is
a fighting game.

But I think that there's some
there's enough goofy fun here, like you said that it it would
differentiate itself from other ones and that's always cool,
right?

So.
It's a fighting game that focuses a bit more on like
blocking and dodging versus.

I feel like a lot of fighting
games are more like get in an attack as fast as possible and
combo, combo, combo, combo, combo.
Yeah, I feel like this is maybe a little bit more strategy in
how you have to play it.

I think if you play against
other people and you're not sort of like gaming the system like
this guy is here with the

Michael Jackson move, that
you're not really gonna be able to pull this off consistently
against someone else, that there'd be more strategy
involved with stuff too.

Yeah, I think so.
I think that's true.

Yeah.
It's it's cool.

And and because there's a decent
size roster in both games, I think you could actually not be
bored by just that alone, right?

Like find, like we said like a
while ago, like find those one or two that you like, gravitate
towards just like regular fighting games.
And then just do the goofy over the top stuff that those guys
have with them, those characters have with them.
And that's that's enough.

That's really all you need for
games like this, I think.

You know, you know what this
made me think too.

So I have this my, my cousins
were a lot older than me and I have my one cousin.
I remember he was getting married and I went out and we
went for his wedding and I went into his bedroom at it at my
aunt's house and he had a giant flat screen TV.
Before flat screens were like a huge thing.
It was like one of those big projector TV's, like probably
like 60 inches.

Like it was really big.
And he had two big like stereo speakers on the side of it.
Like his room was big.

He had an Xbox 360.
He was like one of the few people I knew had an Xbox 360.
He had Fight Night round three.

I don't know if you've ever
played those games.

I, I don't remember which one I
played, but I had one for, I don't know if it was original
Xbox or if it was 360 and I really liked it.
I don't remember which one it was.
It could have been that one actually, but yeah, I can't
recall.

Exactly.
Yeah, this was like my first real game that I saw in HD and
it was a boxing game.

And it was like, I mean, now it
probably looks like crap, but it it looked really cool at the
time.

I remember them punching and all
these details and like them turning and spitting.
And I played with shout out to

Carlos.
If Carlos just happens to be watching it be like my aunt
Robbie took him in like her son.

And anyways, we played fight in
round 3 and I'm thinking about how graphically impressive that
game was.

I'm just thinking about how if
my cousin had this and it was on the screen, I think I would have
been more impressed.

I.
Would have been like.

Whoa, Michael Jackson.
Like it would have hit me a lot harder.
Would you play a shack?

Oh, my God.
Hillary Clinton.

Yes.
I don't think I would have known who that was as a kid.
Yeah, probably not at the time.

Yeah, I was too young, honestly.
Probably me too, even though I was older than you.
I probably been like what?

Who?
Yeah, I wouldn't.

Recognize, but wouldn't have
really.

I would have recognized Shaq and
I would have recognized Michael

Jackson and I would have been
like, whoa.

Yeah.
And then see sort of the presentation of the game and how
like just fun it is.

It's just.
Would be enough.

Fun.
Yeah, yeah.

It's just, it's very silly fun.
Yeah, I need.

To get this.
I think a lot of what?

A lot of what works for the game
is that classic Midway feel with these with these arcade games,
you know, whether it's a racer like Hydro Thunder, which is
something that the same studio made for the 64, at least you
know, those those games feel like they're meant to be arcade
games.

This could go that way too.
But they've done a good job of making it on the home console
and stuff.

And it just, it just has that,
that Midway blood in it.

And, you know, I, I love Midway
for a bunch of reasons around this era in the early 2000s and
stuff before they went away.

And this is one of those games
that like, I don't think it's a, it's a fantastic game, but I
liked it.

I thought, I thought both of
them were pretty fun and definitely one that you could
just pick up and be like, yeah,

I, I just want to have some
goofy fighting fun.

You, you can get a good solid
few hours out of it.

I, I looked it up too.
I don't actually have the exact price in front of me or
whatever, but there are some it's not expensive.
If you were to find, especially the first one, there's a lot of
these cartridges out there, probably because it's just one
of those ones that they would have pushed out quite a bit.
Almost every iteration of the game, especially for the 64
you're you're gonna be paying 30 bucks or less probably for this
on average.

I I'd say it's worth it if if
you really wanted the actual cartridge or it worked fine on
the OverDrive.

It was totally fine.
You know, I had no issues other than that very, very minor,
minor slow down.

I mentioned is is good, Ran ran
well, it's fine.

Yeah, Midway made another mid
banger.

Mid banger.
That's a good one yeah, pretty much pretty much not not
fantastic, but definitely not a bad game either.
So and if you if you are interested in trying out the
handheld versions, give the give the GBA 1A try.
If you got, if you got a little bit of a handle on what the
either the first or second one feels like, you'll probably be
OK with it on GBA and, and get some time out of it as well.
I actually didn't check sort of how available those ones are,
but I think at the time, if I knew it existed, I probably
actually would have tried to tried to get a copy of it 'cause
I would have been like, oh, this is that fighting game.
And I always had my GBA on me.

So it's like I just, yeah.
Oh, and the other thing too is

Oh my God, what was I just gonna
say?

I can't remember.
It's about the, oh, the

Dreamcast version, Dreamcast.
I, I had a thing here that said there are there's two versions
of the Dreamcast version of this game because they actually
updated it with bugs that they had, it says.
That's weird that they update it with bugs.
They added issues to the game we.
Thought it'd be more fun.

We put more glitches in it.
There's 2 Michael Jacksons now.

One's the thriller version, the
other yeah, the other one's the

Neverland version.
Oh gosh, yeah.

They'd fight each other.
Yeah.

When they first started making
Dreamcast games that had, they had several errors multiple
games had which were fixed in different pressings.
So how do you know if you have a fixed copy on the cover?
It says hot and new in quotations and the disc
apparently is just slightly different.
Other games that did this also from Midway, Mortal Kombat Gold,
Hydro Thunder, and Blitz 2000, those are all games that did a
similar thing.

Other companies might have done
the same thing.

But if you did, if you had a
very very early version of those games, you probably have one
with some bugs or errors in it and Midway sent out some new
copies.

So ready to rumble.
Everyone check it out.

Worth a shot.
I recommend either one of these, but if you want some more
wildness, the second one is is the way to go.
I think I can't go wrong with either.
I think so.

OK, other than that, Sir Cheeky
look back.

I know we are recording as of
this recording, we're sitting here a little bit early to when
it's going to be released and stuff.
But if anyone is listening to this ahead of time and when our
episode after this comes out, we're going to play some Star
Wars games.

Sir, let's play some Star Wars.
You want to play some Star Wars?

I like Star Wars.
Sounds cool.

I like I like me some Star Wars.
I got me a copy of Rogue

Squadron not too.
Long.

Box copy.
They had a good sale at the store that I've mentioned before
on the show.

Doesn't happen too often, but
they had a used game sales, so I could get a couple different
things.

I got a Switch game and then I
got this together for for a pretty decent price and I got my
son a a little like Yoshi

Amiibo.
He loves Yoshi.

So what's he gonna do?
Like he can't.

I don't.
I'm not gonna use it necessarily.
It's really just gonna sit on the shelf and he can say like
Yoshi and play around with it if he wants to.
So that's plus the fact that if anyone really cares, I don't
know, do people do May the 4th?

Is that a thing or is that just
marketing?

I don't know either way.
Someone does.

It's somewhere.
It it's May the fourth Star Wars is May Mandalorians coming out,
stuff like that.

Like a movie like let's play
some Star Wars.

Let's.
Play some Star Wars.

Star Wars Rogue Squadron is also
a a movie that they were supposed to make that is no
longer happening, unfortunately.

That could have been kind of
cool squarely in between Episode 4 and five, which is also
interesting too.

And you play as Luke Skywalker
flying around in X wings and Y wings, I think and stuff.
So that's what's coming up next.

Jiggy, look back.
I know the time is a little bit off like I said with the with
the recording and stuff, but in may any particular plans for
streams or videos or anything in particular?
The return of Mumbo May.

Oh, that's right.
I'm doing banjo banjo content for the month of May yes,
although I will say that I've

I've had AI might have a few
other random videos like sprinkled in there that may be
different, but I do I do want to hype up.
I am working on a video that's just sort of different than
anything I've done before talking about the legendary
Sonic O 6.

So if you've never played Sonic
O 6.

Have not, have not.
Yeah, and this is different than a review.
It's not a review.

It's it's like, it's like the
tale of my most hyped game ever and your.
Your personal most hyped.

Game ever my personal most hyped
game ever.

I go into the whole story of
that generation of consoles,

PS3, Nintendo Wii, how excited I
was, how I was hardcore into

Nintendo.
Like lots I have.

Like it's just story filled.
Nice it's it's Diggy look back lore.
It's Diggy look back lore.

It's a time in my life.
It is like a a look into my life in 2005 and 6 like that era.
And it's going to be totally different than anything I've
done.

And I think it's really
interesting.

So it's definitely, it'll be out
by that time, so.

Yeah, yeah.
That's sick, man.

That's, that's awesome.
I love that.

I love that you you go on sort
of a journey with you and stuff.

So come with me.
Come on, come on.

It's journey with me.
It's a cool way for people to get to know a little more about
you.

So why not?
Even better.

Yeah, doing a fun way.
Love it.

We're all about video games in
any way whatsoever.

So hey, let's get a little bit
more.

And then just wanted to
reiterate a new series called A

Commercial Success that is up on
patreon.com/remember 64 show for free for the first couple of
episodes.

After that, you'll find it under
one of the one of the tears trying to work things out is
exactly how I want to do that.

But just a way to have more for
people that want to support the show.
If you can, always appreciate it.
If you don't, no big deal.

Just do what you can.
But just trying to get a little bit more out there anytime that
I get an opportunity to.

So that's what it everybody.
Thanks so much for for waiting a little bit until this episode
launch.

But we are full steam ahead from
here on out and look forward to some Star Wars, some jiggy look
back content.

And let's put it everyone,
thanks so much for joining us.

Get ready to rumble.
Wait, what?

I don't know.
I don't know what to say.

You took the line.