Expansion Pak - The 1997 'Backies' Game Awards - Night 1

It's about time.
You showed up Fox, you're the only hope for our world.
I'll do my best and Russ won't have his way with me.
Welcome to remember 64 where this week, we head back to 1997
with some friends.

Hello everyone and welcome to
the show as we end off our first year of remember 64.
I'm tying in some of my good friends from my back in my day
podcast and we're talking about 1997 video games.
Which yes, of course, with the

First full year of the Nintendo,
64 is perfect.

We have the fun awards ceremony
sort of speak that we've done for the last couple of years.
They are called the back.

He's yes.
After back in my day, it's it's very original.
You're welcome for that.

Essentially, you'll hear it as
we describe, what it is, what we come up with some fun
categories.

I mean, you know, the game
awards is fun and all with newer games, but let's be honest, you
got to come up with some fun, goofy ones as well.
So, that's what we do.

We go through a whole bunch of
categories.

Is and fun games, lots of N64,
titles are featured here as well, so you will get some
gaming talk with that.

We also talked a lot about games
that are based on movies and TV shows, really, we're just
honestly here to just have a good time and do something
different myself.

Mike and Ian are all really big
fans of them tendo 64 and have had lots of experience growing
up.

We've talked about a numerous
times on the show on back in my day, so it was really just,
like, back in my days.

Of like a precursor to why?
I even jumped into making something.
Like remember 64 on top of that

I have some fun clips from
previous episodes from remember 64.
So you hear myself and Luigi?

Talk about games like
Carmageddon.

If you listen to that episode is
one of the most fun and painful ones at the same time that we've
done.

So keep an eye out for that and
an ear out in this episode as well.
You're also hear us talk more about other 64 games and the
next episode that you'll see on your feed, we split this back,
he's of 1997.

Evan into two episodes because
we had such a good time in so many categories that we didn't
want to bore anybody.

So we split it up into two.
So that's how that's going to work.
So I hope everybody enjoys it and hope everyone's had a good
holiday so far.

And without further Ado, let's
jump into the 1997 back.

He's
Message from General pepper.

How are you won?
We need your help Starbuck.

Welcome everybody to back in my
day my name is David Petraeus.

Hello.
And this week the not so stereotypical Millennials will
be saying goodbye to Auntie to thank God for many reasons and
hello, it's a 1997.

We are going back 25 years for
the back.

He's the second annual back he's
and we will be handing out some awards.
Once again, I'm lucky enough to be joined by Michael our power
and even Walter gentlemen, cheers!
It's the end of 2022 and we're saying hello to 97 cheers.
We all have our adult Pops in our hands and we're gonna have a
good time and hand out some fun ridiculous.
And cool Awards.

I mean the whole point of the
back he's is to have fun.

The whole point of the back.
He's just a look back and a word, a bunch of Video Game
Awards with one movie award.

Also coming up surprise,
surprise.

Dave, should we explain the
back?

He's how?
Yeah, it's the only eligible games are 1997 games.
Yes.

Correct.
Correct.

Yeah.
So everything here has to have been released in 1997.
I think some of them here like A couple of them might be might
have been released in Japan and 97, but most of them are North
acceptances.

Yeah, well, except that, if we
just want to include that game and talk about it.
Yeah.

So forget, forget the Video Game
Awards, where they look at the releases this year, like, that's
too easy.

Everyone's doing that Geoff,
keighley is not trying hard enough.
Clearly, we're going back 25 years and giving awards to the
games that really matter, the

Retro games, the games that we
loved growing up the games that are forgotten and that's what
the Kiss is all about yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well said, sir.

Well said on remember 64, my
other podcast is a few titles that I've played that.
We're going to be talking about so I'm excited to share my
recent experience of revisiting, some of these games.
So I'm going to start with the

Nintendo 64 games as well, or at
least one of the categories, we have the 64 games and it's it is
the best N64 game with the number 64 in the title.
Because, you know, it's the 90s, it was cool to put the number in
their kids.

That's the way things were.
I love that Trend.

Yeah, it's like, hilarious,
whatever 64.

Yeah, so we have a few Classics.
Here, we have Star Fox 64,

Bomberman 64 Duke Nukem 64, the
classic Mario Kart 64 Madden, football, 64, and likely the
most played game on the console,

Mahjong 64.
I found that when I was looking for it, I actually don't
remember if it was Release the

North America or not.
But I was like sure.

Let's throw in something funny
here.

Mr. Ian Walter.
What do you think?

This is tough?
This one's pretty tough.

I think y'all the 64 titles are
great.

Right?
You've got your, you got a

Bomberman 64.
I remember playing a lot of

Bomberman.
What?

No, matter what version was
whenever subohm, rental like to play that.
But that's like more arcade-style.
Write another one.

There.
I would think I would say.

Yeah, some old, yeah, some good
multiplayer.

That's true couch Co-op.
But for me once you drop the

Great Mario Kart 64.
That's got to be my choice, right?
Because you know we're gifted this.
It is Christmas time.

Right now we're gifted the
chance to talk about it again, even though technically a
dropped in Japan and 96, so we already got a chance to talk
about it in the first back.

He's now we're going to talk
about this great game again in the second annual back.
He's so that's my choice.

Mario Kart 64.
I think it is the greatest racing game for that console and
it defined what Mario Kart is now.
Yeah, probably true what it was in the Super Nintendo.
So Mario Kart.

I mean we I play it even.
I've played it even more than a plague old man.
You know, golden eyes.

My favorite game of all time.
So from from that console that's saying something right there.
The Mario Kart 64.

All right, Mike, I'm gonna go to
you.

I have a, I have a bit of a, I
don't know.

I don't know what I'm going to
do.

So I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to
Young and you're going to think about it.
Well, I gotta go, it's a very good choice, Mario Kart 64 and I
would not be upset if it got the backe, but since I'm going s and
Dave still has to go, I'm going to throw I'm gonna throw my
support behind Star, Fox 64, because this is the game, the
first Star Fox game, I played.

It's the one game of the list
that I owned and absolutely loved and got me into the star
first.

They get her new Starfox to
North America, right?

Well, I came out an SNES but it
wasn't quite it's nothing, it's not sinking.
Like this is much much too cultural impact of this game is
much bigger.

So lot of people's first
experience with the character

Star Fox was still beloved
Character to this day because of this game, and it's a great game
and it's a unique game and takes that sort of bullet hell game
that used to be 2D and moves.

It 3D does within 64.
Do with a lot of games, sort of reinvents it into the 3D polygon
worlds.

And so yeah, that's my book.
Just cause I think it's the best game.
It's my favorite of the bunch.

All right, I think I had a good
multiplier as well.

Great multiplayer.
I mean, did pop and, and sort of

Arena Battle type stuff.
Right.

I had two options which is,
which is really cool.

Now that you say that Mike, I
think it's actually pretty definitive for me that I would
act also be Starfox.

Honestly, the more I think about
this game, the more I realize how good it really is, like, it
has like an atmosphere.

It's a lot of Levels.
They all kind of feel different.

You start in the first stage,
where it's sort of like a city that's collapsing and then
you're sort of over water.

And then depending on which
branch in which path you go off of, you could be in space, you
could be over a planet that's on fire and like, there's all these
different options than it and stuff.
Which at the time was not common, or at least not in a
game like this.

And, and it's just such a fun
game.

I think everything you said,
though, even with Mario Kart 64 though is, is true.
Like, really it Very defining like that that matters that that
you know, my my feelings of

Mario Kart 64 compared to the
original have are now well, documented.
Yeah, the episode or on the show but it's not not to say anything
bad about the game, I just prefer the previous version but
it's still, you're right.

Everything you said is correct
but I can't not give it to

Starfox myself so I think that's
where we're going to go with the 97.
Best 64 title with 664 in the taihu the first back.
She took the first back here until you come to my next up.
We have best franchise starter and this is going across
multiple platforms.

We have Carmageddon Grand Theft
Auto Grand Turismo Age of

Empires and fall out.
I'm going to go first here because I will say right now,
this is a for horse race.

Instead of a five and guys, with
remember, 64 with my other podcast, I played Carmageddon, a
few months ago and it is 100%.

Not the best of anything.
So it's not deserve to be on this list.
Nice, or does it deserve to be in serious consideration?
Yeah.

It's really weird.
So you're and you know it feels like they want you to think of
it as a race but it's not really and I would wrap its heart.
Yeah.

I think I mean they call them
races and everything and I think they do want you to but like I
don't know that it knows what the focus needs to be because it
does want you to have it as a race.
There's laps there's times there's checkpoints but you can
also win like we said by killing all the zombies in the level,
which I don't understand how you could possibly want to have
enough time to find them.

And to find 160 in any way
whatsoever.

How what it is all of them?
You clear them all out.

If you clear them all out, you
will R in that particular race but it'll take forever and you
don't have enough time.

No.
Or you can destroy the other vehicles because there's a
timing mechanic going on.

In the only thing you're trying
to beat is the clock.

It really is really.
That is what it is.

It has so little going for it,
it's unfortunate.

But for me, this would be
personally probably Grand Theft

Auto, but I think that's mostly,
because I spent the most time out of all of these games with
it.

Not because it was like, huge
for me.

Not because it was like my
favorite out of all these or anything necessarily, but
probably That I didn't get to play much Gran Turismo.
I think I played a lot of to, which I think was common for a
lot of people and fall out.

It in play until much later and
Age of Empires.

I think it was like a two and
three sort of where my experience was.
But yeah, mine would be the first GTA.
Thats that's who gets my vote for Michael.
What are you?

Well, you know, I don't want to
make it a short category, but

I'm also gonna go with Grand
Theft Auto, you know, I don't know how to make sense.
Vote not matter as much.

But.
Okay, next, this is in Italy.

First annual back, he's going to
try and sway one of you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.
You should lay out the rules, which is, you know, we vote on
the categories and majority wins, but you can sway other
people.

Yep, to change their vote.
So it's not final until everyone goes so good point in, I was
really hoping to.

I was really thinking Dave is
going to lean somewhere else.

That's why I kind of had that
interesting for me.

It's Grand Theft Auto, and it's
easy.

So, all right, Right?
Alrighty and sway us.

Although there's a lesser known
title called Oddworld Abe's

Oddysee that I think is also
pretty decent.

Yeah.
Franchise starter I'm going to stick with the nominees.
And go GTA is a great as I think it's a great franchise and I
really like the second one.

The way it was different from
the 3D versions.

Like when you're doing the
bird's eye view, actually enjoyed that version but like it
doesn't really represent the It has it is say that everyone
loved from like three onwards and so I'm going to steer away
from GTA.

I'm going to go with Gran
Turismo because it pretty much held it's like stuff from the
first one all the way through.

And it's a it's probably like I
know I just talked about Mario

Kart 64, probably the most like
accurate racing game.

You can play it like it's it's
always been known for that.

Yeah absolutely.
Yeah the whole series is meant to so yeah, I realized it
probably won't see anywhere from great GTA.
It's a great franchise, but when

I think about the Franchise like
I think Grand chosen was a great franchise starter whereas GTA
had to pick up a little bit of steam as it went.
That's fair.

That's fair.
I mean I think that GTA3 is probably one of the most, you
know, not even genre-defining.

But like video game defining,
yes games every one of those milestones and video game.
Yeah, ya like it changed everything and I love that game.
It's and in a lot of ways. 1 & 2 are the blueprint for that.
It's just like shake it from here to there.
Exactly.

Exactly that jump that they
made.

They really know.
They made the Mario jump, they made the Mario jump made and
will say my vote.

My vote is may be cheating, but
my vote is 100%.

Not for the game, Grand Theft
Auto one, but the franchise.

Okay, I think the, I think some
of these games are better than

Grant.
The first Grand Theft Auto like

Age of Empires and for example,
but I agree.

I don't think I forgot our to is
where really?

Yeah, I think that's the one I
played.

Yeah.
But, but I'm Voting for the best franchise starter.
So I'm kind of taking all of the, what I know now about the
rights account.

I can't.
Right?

Let's do that.
So for me, it has to be Grand

Theft Auto.
That's fair.

That's a good point.
I never actually thought of it that way because if you'd like
if you really take in the sort of like long dear members of the
team like Grand Theft Auto two was much better.
Let me my friends played one and two and we almost never played
one.

I mean we see IO we always
played one, I've always played really bad I kind of like going
back to that.

Have you?
Like I said, it's like a different form of Team, you
know?

Yeah.
No.

It's a cool option for sure.
Alright, so the second backe from 1997 is headed to Grand
Theft Auto.

Yeah, with who we like again.
All right.

So perfect, follow-up Ian, you
had this fantastic idea.

Just a couple days ago before we
hit record of a new category that we're going to adhere.
It may be something that comes up in future back.
He's But 497, like you said, this just seems to be like, such
a crazy.

I don't know if it's coincidence
or Trend or whatever, but all these games that have to win the
title or are a sequel.

So, this is the best follow-up
to the original title.

So the second one in the series.
So it along category here, but there's a lot of really good
choices.

All right, let's go with Star
Wars.

Jedi, knight dark Forces to
Crash.

Bandicoot 2 Tomb, Raider 2 Need
for Speed too quickly.

To Riven the sequel to missed.
So number there so maybe that's why I didn't know that Time
Crisis to worms to or Heroes of

Might and Magic too.
All right, go for Mike because you guys, yeah, it's my turn to
start off and I think I have a unique pick liking.
You can say, and pick whatever you want.
I'm just gonna like clarify in my mind.
Anyways, that we were talking about original franchise
starters.

This is like the best sequel to
an original title.

Yeah.
So, We would matter that this is the better to for me the
improvement over the original.

Yeah, better.
Yeah, sure.

Okay.
So for me the clear winner is

Heroes of Might and Magic too.
Oh wow, nice.

Yeah yes yes your choice.
Like oh man I love this game so much.
I loved Heroes of Might and

Magic just thinking about it,
brings me back to a time where I would play this game.
Friend Matt's house on his parents computer and I didn't
even own it, but every time I went over, we're obsessed with
it.

And it was such a cool game.
It was so different.

So unlike anything else I've
ever played before, it was like this, I don't know.
Like real time, strategy, s game, but you had this hero,
they'll get artifacts and you had a base that you would
defend.

And yeah, it was, it was such a
cool game of it.

Just captured my imagination and
I didn't, I did go back and play the first one, and it was, there
was a lot of improvements with the second one and I I followed
the series of a little bit but nothing will nothing will hold
up like the second one did for me, just that time my life 97,
discovered it and played it a lot and loved it.
So for me, it has to be, you know, we're a lot of bias into
these sort of.

Yeah, it's really obviously.
So that's my bias is, but I also think it deserves it, to be
honest, even though.

Yes, sure, sure.
Yeah.

I'm Gonna Leave You for last
because you were, yeah, it's a good idea.
You're going to close.

That's a good idea.
I've no idea what I'm gonna do.

A good idea, I'm going to kind
of talk through my talk through my into because this is tough
because the Star Wars Jedi, knight dark Forces game.
I played the first one more than

I played the second, but I do
know and yeah.

And similarly, I did go over to
a friend's place and play these games and that's how I
experienced them and I do remember really enjoying both.
I even repurchased the original one on switch.
It was you know re-release or something like that a few years
ago it's Great.

It's still really fun.
It's it feels great.

I think that's from 95 or 96,
but as far as this list goes,

I'm gonna go with Tomb Raider 2
on mine because that was again,

I never had a PlayStation, but
it was one of those games that I played at other peoples places
and we rented sometimes because it was just I don't have a lot
of experience with the original, but I have a lot of experience
with to and I do remember really enjoying the sort of world that
Tomb Raider had at the time.

But if I look down this list, I
don't know that.

A lot of these were like front
and center for me in these you know, 97 98 and stuff.
I had a lot of other ones that we're going to be continuing to
talk about but fight, if I really had to pick one, I would
go with Tomb, Raider 2, but I am more than open to being swayed.
So yeah, your turn sir, good one.
I look at this list and there's nine that we're talking about
here.

And so honestly, all of them are
great, follow-ups, the original all of them, I I've played
majority of them, and I can also say that most of them are
improvements on the original, so it's tough.
Tough call to Mayor, choose a good choice.
I think Need for Speed would be a good choice.
Quake is also a great sequel, a sequel, yes, quick to so and
then you know for me it's like it always leads to Unreal
Tournament and I think like I love power of choice because
heroes are made magic to.

I played a lot of it.
And for me it's like the

Pinnacle was Heroes of Might and
Magic 3 but I would choose still hears it.
Magic too because it's still fundamentally the same game.
It does a lot of the great things that here is a magic
three.

Does he you mentioned how it's
like you have a core base, you build out your hero, you add
armies of creatures and depending on your class, your
type of Castle.

You have different creatures at
your disposal.

It's a great adventure game.
You gather resources, you go to battle against other players, is
a great multiplayer game on a lan or whatever or even local
locally dial-up internet other.

EC.
So here's a, my magic is one of the most Innovative on this list
for me.

There's a mad mad too.
It's gonna say, I was gonna say, if we, if there's no two votes,
then we'll do a second, right?

That's just setting some of the
ground rules for the back.

Yes, but yeah, it was agreement.
We could have got 2 votes so he can narrow it down.
Go to the next step and stuff.

Yeah, for sure.
Okay, my love goes deep for The

Heroes of Might and Magic there.
Yeah, I thought.

So.
I thought you guys both have these amount of experience of
the I do not but that's because

I think I spent all my time
between 95 and like, 99 and

Warcraft.
I think that's why I'm working.

So I actually think that here's
a my magic is type of game where you play it on PC.
A lot of those don't translate well into modern standards but
you can play this one because it's turn base.
You can actually play like a turn based on this for sure.
And it would work really well.

I think, right?
Yeah.

I agree.
All right.

So we've had enough.
Best category so far guys, I think it's time to turn to the
worst for a little bit Mike.

I'm gonna let you introduce this
because because you put this these this like one and a half
category together here, so it starts with the worst game based
on a movie.

Yeah, I thought this was a fun
category.

Is anyone?
That's you know, grew up in the 90s or the 80s or listen to this
podcast, probably as people listen to podcast, probably did
knows that.

Back in the day, we used to get
tons of these games based on movie, franchises movie.
IP and there are more often than not terrible usually Terror.
Usually it's just trying to squeeze that extra dollar out of
the out of the movie out of the fans or whatever, right?
And this was like something that happened to 90 so much.
So if you look at this category, like I don't think it happens as
much anymore.

It happened a lot in the 2000s
to but also happened a lot in the 90s.
I think they're more careful with it now.
Almost.

Yeah.
Like they learned their lesson or a little better than I will
not leave any forward.

I don't know.
Yeah, it's not.

It's like you might be based on
the same franchisor to

Spider-Man games, but it's not
necessarily based on the movie.

Yeah, there's like a Blade.
Runner game is on basically, but back in 97.
We got, you know, an

Independence Day game.
So, these are the, these are the nominees independent state
Blade.

Runner, Anastasia adventures
with pooka and Bartok, okay?

That could be it, ha ha ha that
could be The worst titles that?

Yeah, clueless the video game.
Disney's Hercules, the video game Monty Python's, The Meaning
of Life.

I think I need to see this here.
I need to see what the what you have to do.
Like and then and then this is the best part of the category.
It is a subcategory to the category, which is it's the best
version of the Lost World

Jurassic Park video game.
Because there were 12 they were five.
I've Jurassic Park lost, I don't remember that.
And there are some good ones in there.
There is one for the arcade.

It was like a house, that arcade
shooter, the shooter and help version, there was a console
version of Sega version and there was a real time strategy
for version called chaos Island,

Lost World.
So there are five Jurassic Park

Place World video games that
were all different.

That the count, 1987 alone.
Wow.

So yeah.
So we can we can first vote for the worst game.
If you Guys, you know II?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know that
I played any of these games.

I'm not I'm going to be honest,
like, maybe Hercules because it's like, at that time where
it's, like, let's play the

Disney game or something.
But, I don't know if I played any of these, but I looked I
looked at most of these up and like just had a brief like scrub
through on YouTube doing playthroughs and the clueless
one, like the fact that it's called Clueless CD-ROM, like
that's actually what it's what it's called is.
It's basically just like, here's a menu of things, you can click
on the computer and you can click on a closet and you can
grab a shirt, you can go to the store and you can grab an item
and it has like this really bad music and voice over.
Welcome to my world.

This map will take you anywhere.
You want to go in this total user-friendly CD-ROM.
Its way point-and-click.

You first stop makeovers.
They totally give me a sense of control in a world, filled with
chaotic hair and makeup misfires.
Like clueless is not necessarily a kids movie.
I would say, but it is definitely a Clueless.
Is also not a movie that you would think.
Oh, this will make a good video game.
Exactly, I get Star Wars or whatever.
But like or Independence Day even I kind of get you could
fight aliens.

You're like yes Louis.
You know what I mean?

How do you see why I'm going
with clueless?

Just based on the you know ten
minutes five minutes of research?
I did for this category and the fact that I don't know that I
played any of these games other than maybe one or two, The Lost
World Games.

So my vote goes to clueless.
Okay.

Goodbye.
And it did you have a vote for the best?
Jane of the Lost World.

Well, okay.
So you were showing me before this chaos Island one, which is
sort of a strategy version.

I have not played that game and
I didn't recognize it at all, but I do remember playing the
arcade game and definitely the

Sega Game.
Those are the two that for sure.

I played.
I'm going to say best is the arcade game because it's super
fun to play those games to sit down with someone.
Yeah, those are good games and have those light guns and you're
in this whole you're not just standing there.
You know, you're in this whole

Contraption that's around.
You and you know, it's one of the ones that like when it asks
you to continue and feed more money into it, you're like
actually consider.

Yeah this is really wanted.
Those are the games that always had like the lineup, you know?
Like they had people waiting for them because they look cool and
everything.

And dude, it's dinosaurs like
let's go for it.

So my vote goes down this hours.
Yeah, thatís thatís, ours, Lots.

Were all right.
All right, you know, the worst movie game and then the best
Lost World game.

Aside from Jurassic Park, the
Lost World which, you know, actually.
Plate, I haven't played the other one.
So I have to side with Dave, on the clueless one, because you've
done your research, you done your homework, I haven't played
any of them.

And I can't imagine a clueless
game would be any good because, you know, even a, even a movie
that lends itself to more, so, to a video game like
Independence Day, like Mike said to lots of New York I think came
out like 92.

Yes, I'm like that game being
super hard though.

Like I remember being like.
Yeah, translates.

Well to a video game.
But why does it have to be so hard?
This clueless.

I have no, I'm clueless.
Just how you make it a new video game.
So yeah, it's, I mean, honestly, the word game and video game is
is a stretch, so there's that.

Okay, yeah, yeah.
Sorry far, as Jurassic Park goes, I, it actually goes a
little deeper because, okay, so

I'm on record for raving about
the original Jurassic Park.

Yeah, Genesis.
However, even though I had the lost world, it's not my favorite
of the sequels.

Mmm, so I had the last row per
second This is also had the lost world for Super Nintendo.
And the weirdest thing about that is, like you said, power
earlier there's like five different versions of the lost
world, like they really blew up into these Video game titles,
right.

But when you normally have like
multiple consoles, like, you know, in today's standards PS5
and Xbox or, you know, back then it was taken Genesis or Super
Nintendo, you had games that were ported nicely over that.
We're the same game.

In this case differences would
be maybe like the music because the Chips were different and
stuff like that.

That's the difference.
And that's it.

And like, you'd have a similar
type game.

But in this case, like we have
the arcade one, which is very experienced Focus.
Like you're sitting there, it's like almost VR like with your
yeah, yeah, runs everything shooting at them.
But for me, it's the Super

Nintendo one because I had that
one.

And the weirdest thing about it
was it was completely different from the sequel in Genesis.
There's completely different from the arcade.
It was like your bird's eye view similar to something like oh
yeah I mentioned and Ran around in the jungle on like the island
and when you went into a building, it turned into like a
doom style shooter and that's what she came like.
Yeah, that's amazing.

Like, that's my game.
So the dress-up party Lost World one.
For me is Super Nintendo.

That's awesome that they did
that.

Like that's how did they do
that?

Is my question.
Like, how do they do that?

Every time you went inside on
the map, so you'd be like bird when I first put eating
dinosaurs like a bird's eye view and then you go into a building
and maybe first person shooter, it was a while.
I'll have Raptors jumping at you with the first person and you
have to gun them down.

That's sick.
Yeah, that's so good.

All right.
Mike creator of the category.

What are ya?
If this was best, it would be

Blade Runner because I, you
know, I actually heard I never played it, but I've seen the
reviews and I was like, God remastered that Blade Runner
point-and-click Adventure game from 97 was actually good.
It actually has a 12 point and click Adventures kicked ass in
the 90s.

They're amazing, they're
amazing, its use in a sentence.

Click.
It's like it's like 497.

That's that's pretty good for a
movie and game.

So so yeah, it has to be
clueless because how the hell is that even a game?
Like that makes sense.

Oh clueless.
Congratulations.

You once.
But you one being the worst game, I don't know.
It's an oxymoron, but whatever, but I know that we're kind of
split on the lost world so we may have to go around.
But I'm gonna try to sway a voting, but Imma Try to sway you
guys on my pick which is chaos

Island a lost world.
Which was a real-time strategy video game based on Jurassic
Park, which was I loved that game which is all about having
your party your little party.

And then having a base real
time, strategy, and collecting eggs, and then hatching them.
And then you don't know what that is for your earring yet,
and then you kind of hatchet.

And the fun was like incubating,
your egg is hatching it and also know you have Raptors joining
your parties.

We have Triceratops turning your
party and then you get to bring them with you and enter all the
battles and stuff.

So real time strategy game with
Dinosaurs with sort of The game of actually sounds pretty epic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was really cool and you get
your party kind of grew bigger with more dinosaurs and, you
know, getting the raptures and

T-Rex was kind of the final ones
you got.

And I, I really did like that
game for PC.

So, that's my vote.
So, I think we'd have to one more round of voting for The
Lost World but I think clueless gets the guess the for the worst
one yet.

Okay.
All right, so we have clueless for worst game based on a movie
and the sort of sub category of best version of Lost World
Jurassic.

Park can narrow it down to chaos
Islands, which is the real time strategy.
The console version, which would be the SNES version or the
arcade version.

No, no.
It's it's it's chaos Island.

Which is the PC version.
It's the arcade won't you vote for Dave?
And it's the SNES 570s because it's different from Genesis yes.
Yeah.

What's your if you have a second
pick or if you want to show your support by?
If I have a second pick At the time, I think if I played it, if
I put myself in the if I sat down and played one of these at
the time because it was so into certain games at the time and
because I was probably moved on from Super Nintendo and Sega at
this time would probably be the

RTS version.
Okay why so I think that's why I would do that.
I definitely played the Sega version of this for sure.
But yeah, if I were to put myself down and say like Hey, I
want to play a game like

Warcraft 2, but I don't want to
play Warcraft 2, and hey, it's

Jurassic Park.
If I knew this existed that would probably be the one, I
would be interested in.

So, so in do you do you have a
second your second son?

Would it be?
Yes.

Second is time.
It's funny because like, definitely my pic stands as.
Yeah.

I think all three of ours
actually.

And is like our first.
Yeah, for me personally.

Because just because of the fact
that like, for me, like I know it's later, The cycle of SNES
but I was a Genesis kid, playing a Sega Genesis games.
I have one Super Nintendo game and it was this game.
Wow.

And I would take it over my
Nana's, my banana was cool.

She had Super Nintendo should.
That's probably all the other.

Yes, you know, it's like Mario
Kart everything else.

So I got one later in life.
But I mean it was like, you know, this was the game that I
was excited to bring it over and play and it actually ended up
being a fun game play.

My second choice would have to
be the arcade style because it's so immersive.
And And I any Jurassic Park game that comes on that format of
arcade game is like instantly one of the best.
Like, all right.

All right so and I'm going to
throw my support behind the SNES one.
So that leaves us in a tie again the winner.
So okay, every one of these games has won first place, vote
in one second place, boat.

Ya know, how do we decide we do
that, or do we just ask people to choose for us?
Because I don't know if we're

And we are, let's let people,
let's let people write it.

Let the people decide which one.
Yeah, we're gonna take this.

We're going to take this tape.
Take this to the streets.

Yeah.
Okay.

Here.
How about this?

Do the pull and put all five
choices on there because of the end of it shoes in one of the
ones that we didn't talk about that, that gets the back.
Well, and that's the thing with the handheld one.
It's on Gameboy, and I know that like, I played So Much Game Boy
that I would not be surprised if

I play this.
Which I know I didn't, if I did,

I could be something I'm
interested in.

To like, that's the thing.
I talk about the RTS version, but also it's on Gameboy, and I
freaking love my Gameboy all the time I still do.
So what's a subcategory?

Anyways, so we can let the
people decide, but it's a good one right bike.
You've stumped us.

Look, you've officially
officially stumped us.

It just seems.
So that's for the first time at the first tie in the back.
He's been oppressed inaudible word at the back, but no prize,
the no prize goes to Lost World.

Drastic park is No prize.
I'm just going to bold it and make sure that I come back to
that.

And okay so no claps no words
there but lots of fun discussion and we're going to have
everybody else choose for us.

Okay.
Back to the best categories.

Best game that would later
become a Blockbuster movie or show.
We have fantastic for on the

Nintendo 64 Castlevania Symphony
of the Night Beast Wars,

Transformers or Rampage.
World Tour I'll go first.

So this wonder if I may I think
there's a clear and obvious winner.
I think the reasons why and I laid out for you guys and let
you think about it before you make your vote.
Maybe I can sway you guys but

Castlevania Symphony Symphony of
the Night is a great game.

It is amazing game.
And the Castlevania series on

Netflix is an amazing series
that not a lot of people has.

So so you feel this.
So I'm taking this opportunity to plug It as well yet, it's by
Warren, Ellis comic book writer, it's like anime style.
It is really, really good and its really good game.
So I think if I combine those two things like everything else
is fantastic, for terrible game,

Beast Wars?
Yeah, that's going to be as a movie but those Transformers
movies kind of stink, and then yes, the Rampage great game.
But the movie sucked.

So this is why I'm throwing my
support to Castlevania Symphony of the Night because I think it
If I say best game their letter later become a Blockbuster movie
and show.

Yeah, maybe just should focus on
the game but I can't help but take into account.
How good that Castlevania

Series?
Right was right?

No that's fair.
I mean so I think the original

Fantastic Four movies they're
just okay.

I haven't watched him in a long
time.

I did not see the most recent
one.

I like them.
I actually did like them back in the day.
Yeah, I don't fully remember them.
But like, so for me if I were to think about, if I were taken to
account because I haven't seen

Castlevania show, but we love
this shit out of the Beast Wars

TV show.
We've talked about that in the past, so that was fun and very
nostalgic.

I played this shit out of
Rampage world tour with friends, which are toxic great game were
yeah.

Like, that was Rampage, was the
game that I sat down on a weekend and played with three
other people.

And we played it on Friday night
until we got to like level 70 or something like that.
And then we went and finished it the next morning.
And played all 110 levels or whatever it was.
But if it's the game itself, it's also Castlevania for me
because not only is it a good game but it helped Define a
genre at this point, like the reason why they call them
metroidvania games is because

Castlevania Symphony of the
Night started that and had that in it like the you know, mix
between Metroid and Castlevania.

That's this is the game that
attributed to that title and and it's an awesome game.
It's one.

Whew, Castlevania games that
I've played and I should play more, but I haven't and it's
excellent.

It's super fun.
And that's my vote without taking to an account with the
actual TV show. / movie actually is so castlevanias, my vote.
It's also likes vote in.

What do you think?
What's let's talk it through.

No, it's I'm pleased because I
think that I actually expected you to say Rampage or so you
mentioned is it's a good choice, but I'm too passive in the The
yeah, Castlevania like you said, like, I love the Metroid
franchise.

I love the cusp of a new
printers.

This one kind of pushed it into
a new Direction and kind of made it like a standard in ways.
So, you know, when you couple that with the fact that even
though I haven't finished watching Castlevania, what I
have seen.

I've been impressed with on
Netflix so it took very good animated series and like it's
hard to adapt a video game project I don't think you're
necessarily expecting it to match like the type of
experience you have with the game but if it's a good story
and it Well animated like I don't see a problem in that it
just may not like and that's another interesting discussion
for a video game movies in general because yeah, right.
What do you want to be reminded of the video game experience?
Or do you just want to see very well?
Maybe it's like, well told story and set in the same world
because right, that's ultimately what they haven't really been
able to do in that genre.

Yeah.
And they've done it on Netflix is a series because I've heard
good things like I like I said I haven't watched it all but What
I have seen has been pretty captivating, so nice.
Nice.

Well, there you go.
So we got so unanimous.

So we went and no prize
stalemate to a unanimous vote.

I was, I'm actually relieved at
on this way anybody and it's not always, I mean, I was honestly,
was very tempted to go with

Rampage for multiple reasons.
It's it's a game I played.

I don't know if it was World
Tour of the first one, I also played arcade, you know, like it
was it's something that was huge for me and I hope I mean, there
are other games out there now that are similar to that.
Like there's one that I played this year, that was Terror of
the Hema Soros or he Mistress don't know exactly how to
pronounce it and it's a sense

Justice it's essentially
Rampage.

It is Rampage with a dark sense
of humor because it's really fun like quote-unquote story to it
and everything like it's if for different characters you can
play co-op like it's really fun it doesn't have like the whole
hundred level type thing but you could do like an endless mode
and everything to but it's you know it's a Fun genre to play
with friends, I will add to that.
The Fantastic Four N64 game.

One of the reasons why I put it
on here almost as a joke is because and IGN review from way
back in the day in 1997, is titled.
Ah, oh no!

Oh God the pain.
So, wow, I've noticed you were saying that it wasn't the best
game on social media.

And I, you know, from what I can
tell It doesn't seem very good, it's weird that I had of all the
N64 games.

I've played, I've never played
fantastic for that is a strange neither of, I'd aim for me here
now that exist.

Yeah, but I mean, if it's any
indication, they haven't been able to adapt it into a movie
yet into anything, so they're like, yeah.
Maybe video games, nugget rest either.
Yeah, right.

Yeah.
Okay, so Castlevania Symphony is a good choice.
All right, next up, the funniest or most ridiculous game title.
This one's always pretty fun.

Is this sir, we're all bringing
titles to the table and we haven't told each other yet.
Well I I wrote I wrote them down in the document and I want to
have the one that I chose as the as the one get.
But let's hear the ice have something that's not on the
list.

Just bring it.
Because last year we had the wonderful hot dog storm No.
But I want to hear which titles you wanted to add in, and then
I'll read the rest of the nominees, and if you already
covered one, then I'll just leave it at that.
But I have one, I have one that wants a head, which is
hilarious.

Because, in researching 96 games
I looked up, you know, what's the worst game of 1996 to get
again unanimously.

The worst game 90 1996, is a
game that also has a terrible name and that's a game called
Bubsy 3D view, bsy.

Bubsy 3D.
Such a horrible name.

Okay.
So mine is completely random.

It is not a game I have ever
heard of because I believe it is only a Japanese soccer game.
I don't know where this game came from.
The way I picked it was when Ian asked I was like, okay, I'm
going to click the letter P and

C which games come up and which
titles are bad and I'm just going to go with that.
It's called pleasure goal.

Please, sir.
That's on a cover somewhere.

That's not just.
Well, it's, it's written.

I think it's a translation.
Like, it's more of a direct translation.
But it's it says, Futsal, five-on-five soccer.
And the one that I thought for sure would get my vote here and
this is ridiculous.

Hotdog storm.
Look it up.

Okay, that way hot dog storm if
you look it up, it even more funny because I was picturing
Picturing like this post-apocalyptic things were
like hot.

Dogs are falling from the sky.
It's a it's one of those vertical Shooters where you're
flying a spaceship but here's the yeah but here's the rub.
Here's the rub.

It's a serious space shooter.
We have no idea why it's called hot dog storm.
It's never explained in the game.
So it's just called hotdog storm and it's a serious space
shooter.

Yeah, we made this category
that's what made it because we had that was not on the list
which is exactly why you're saying that Ian is just because
it's effing hilari.

Like hotdogs storm was like is
like this bullet.

Hell sort of thing Isis just oh
come on.

Like it's just ridiculous,
right?

Okay.
So funniest or most ridiculous game title, I want to say, it's
redneck Rampage and what part of read the categories of that.
But it read the nation's first.

Yeah, that was a redneck Rampage
one, just o&e York, the grand

Inquisitor, which actually I saw
that one.

Yeah.
And Don Don patchy which I have no idea what that is.
Don't do-don.

Do-don do-don.
Oh, sounds like you have three.

Do you want me to read some and
really ones that I found?

All right, let's let they finish
his all right.

The reason why I pick redneck
Rampage is because I just think it's It's hilarious
alliteration.

And also I played this game.
I played the shareware version of like the first like two
levels of this game and I remember it.
And now I look back at it and I saw people like, dude, YouTube
videos of it, it's fucking terrible, like it's just bad.
It's just a bad guy.

But I just think that title is
just so they can get away with that title anymore, okay?
That's a terrible title and probably a terrible game.
Also, I think power, you make a valid point before with the
Anastasia.

What I had always But for me, I
found three as well.

And it's meat puppet, which is
got to be in there.

Yeah, meat puppet.
Pajama Sims, sock Works which I have no idea what the fuck that
is ready for math with poo, which we know what that probably
is.

But at the same time, if you try
and say to a child, hey, I got you for Christmas a game for
your new console, and it's ready for math with who I don't think
they'll be too excited.

On Christmas morning, might say
math is poo poo.

Yeah, that's right.
What did you get me?

All right, those are good.
Do you have one that your nominee in excited?
I gotta go.

Because what the hell are we in
for wood, that one?

Okay, I've got to that, I bring
to the table that you guys haven't mentioned.
All right, the hope.

I don't think I have any as good
as hot dog storm in the mix here.
I don't think anyone ever will.

Yes, Ali.
There Is a game called balls of steel that came out in 1997.
Oh, I think I know what that bitch.
I thought that's a great name balls of steel.
I wonder if they like knew what they were doing there or if it
was really just a game about pinball, right?
As a pinball.

Great name for a pinball game,
balls of steel.

And then this is kind of a cheat
because it's this is a game that's from the sort of
emulating.

And I think it's from me the
same people as the Leisure

Leisure Hours.
Suit, Larry kind of Syrian series.
Yep, but there was a game called gag the impotent mystery.
Oh, that's ridiculous.

Oh my God.
Yeah, fantastic.

Yeah, we got another one.
That came out called clayfighter 63 and one thirds.
Yes.

Making fun of the 64.
Yeah, I think that's just a stupid thing to do but 63 The
difference with that, like the

Naked Gun movie, they could gun
thing.

At the thing is with that game
is that they had 22 games.

They had to clayfighter games.
One of them was 63 and a third and other one was clayfighter
64, right?

They had made two of them.
One of the 64-yard, the one that was 64.
I didn't realize it did that like, what the hell?
What the hell, they did it on purpose.
It's amazing.

So maybe that one.
Belongs is the 10th sequel

Choice?
Yeah, I also belong.

I don't know what to vote here.
Like II.

Don't know if I want to go to
the pajama party one or the balls of steel because balls are
still things actually great name.
I think it's always actually it for a good kid.
I played that game.

I'm looking at one right now.
I played that game.

I played balls of steel 100%
that was those definitely gaming plate gag.
The impotent mystery is that is pretty ridiculous like gag too.
Hot dogs storm.

Yeah yeah first person point and
click Inventory.

Based Adventure game often
considered the first Russian game in the quest.
Genre, that's not what whatever, the okay.
I'm going with our Paradise pole, this pole that's
ridiculous.

All right, I think we got to do
it right gag.

The impotent mystery.
Hey, this is even better.

This is even better.
This just keeps going.

There's a spin-off called The
Adventure of Harry.

The FAA, under the underwear.
It's almost like Harry's the

Russian laser shoot Larry or
something.

Yeah, yeah, I think this whole
series should win for the rest of time for doing this and
hotdogs storm.

I think we're good guys.
Good.

Yeah, Thats So that's a
hilarious backe to give but yeah

I love that gag.
The impotent mystery what?

Like it's good I'm not in there
and it is taking home the trophy this time.
Gentlemen, so so good for the back.
He's this is part 1 of the back.

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We'll have the rest of the awards to hand out and we have a
few more video game ones.

And as I mentioned towards the
top of the show, we also have a movie category added.
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