Level 69 - Spider-Man - Thwip, Thwap, Shwing!

Swing from buildings, shoot
webs, bring down the bad guys, and for the first time ever you
have all his cool spider powers.

Jim, the garbage isn't going to
take itself out.

You don't just play it, you live
it.

Jim.
Spider man.

The game ready for everyone from
the greatest of Tony Hawk's Pro

Skater.
Welcome to Remember 64, where this week we're heading to our
local comic book shop.

Hi everyone, welcome to the
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Easy for me to say so far today
my name is David Pitrangelo.

And with great power comes some
early 2000s polygonal responsibility.
And this week we have it in spades.
Jiggy, look back here once again.
Hello, how are ya?

Go and go swap.
A flap swap.

Swap, swap, swap, swap.
Pretty thrappy punch kick.

Yeah, your sound effects are
much better than mine.

If that has not cued anybody up,
I I get once again, once again

Jiggy brings the visuals here.
Please find find the at least this opening section on YouTube
and watch the video because that just amplified what just
happened there on screen.

So you might have heard it, but
it is different with your eyes.

If you have not guessed so far,
we are talking about Spider Man, the 2000 release on the N64, a
late release on the console, which I did not realize at
first.

I thought this was a little bit
earlier and this is just one of the many versions of this game
that are out there.

We will discuss that as we go
along.

But Spider Man is right in the
smack of summer when we're recording this and when you're
going to be able to hear this episode when it first releases.
Why not with the last 15 years of movies or really 20 plus
years of movies?

Let's hit up some Spider Man
action.

Let's hit up some comic book
action and bring in some heroes.

That's pretty much why.
We're.

Yeah, and this is a game that I
think I, I've been looking forward to revisit.
I, I, I had some experience with it growing up.
We'll get into some of the, some of those details in a minute.
But yeah, Spider Man is what we have up this week.
I just want to do the housekeeping like I have been
doing for the last couple of episodes or so.
If anyone has not heard, remember 64 has now joined
consolecreatures.com and the

Console Creatures set of
podcasts, including a big actually massive Spider Man fan
in Matt's that also works with me at Console Creatures, the
host of the PlayStation

Generation podcast, who you will
hear on this podcast very soon.

He will be joining us for an
episode that's upcoming.

Matt is one of a number of
people that work at Console

Creatures.
So we have PlayStation

Generation, which talks about
all things PlayStation and sort of newer consoles and all that
stuff as well.

If if news links together for
that podcast and then we also have the creature cast on as
well, which Bobby and Steve are mostly on with the awesome
guests a lot of the time too and interviews and everything about
newer games releases.

There's you know, for example,
switch games that are coming out reviews of consoles like the
switch to recently happened as well.
So those types of approaches and previews and, and interviews,
like I said, and stuff.

So that's where you can find the
podcast.

But consolecreatures.com, you
can also find all the links to all of them and articles and
written articles and reviews, some by myself, but mostly by by
the other members of the of the crew, including guys like
Dennis, for example.

And yeah, that's, that's the
biggest update.

I think we're going to be able
to sort of do some cross work as well.
So like you may have heard previously or on other episodes
that you may have been sifting through, that doesn't change
anything for this particular show, we're going to have the
same structure.

We're going to have myself and
Jiggy on it constantly and running through this, the 60
fours library.

That's basically how we're going
to do it and and keep things going.
Just going to be part of another pool of of awesome stuff.
And honestly, those shows have been on them.
They're super fun to listen to, super fun to be on.
Hopefully that's what everyone thinks about for this show too.
We're just going to try and try and keep it all going.
And every once in a while we'll have guys like Matt, for
example, that will join us on an episode upcoming that you know,
a little more likely that they'll probably pop on than
they would have otherwise.

But but that's pretty much it.
So consolecreatures.com is where you'll find it and this show and
the others as well, the creature cast and PlayStation generation.
So without further ado, I think we have some Spider Man and
flip, flap zip ZAP swap.

Action Swing.
Before we get into talking specifically about the game and
some details, I'm going to play the opening sort of to the main
menu type of thing, because one of the big one of the big
awesome things about this is you get a taste of really cool
classic music and a new take on it.
So we'll we'll go back with some sounds and music as we go along
that we're trying to do.

But if you're watching this as
well the the YouTube version, you'll be able to see us sort of
flip between our new setup and stuff here as well, which is
kind of fun.

But let's let's kick off with
hearing a little bit of what this game has to offer.
Banger.

What do we have here?
I missed that.

And this is just the menu you
expect.

Oh yeah, there's a kid mode.
That was something that I forgot about, Yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah.
All right.

We'll get to the sound for that
in just a second.

But that that is how we get
things started in in Spider Man 2004, the N64 Jiggy while we
while we talk about sort of our potential lead in So what we
what we have experienced past with this game.
Are you a comic book fan?

Are you a spider man fan?
Like let's sort of place ourselves in like is spider man
something I would be excited to play regardless of when it was
like it or or any kind of comic book movie.
Like I know we've talked about I think a little bit on episodes,
but definitely off air about your extensive kick ass skills
in the Arkham games.

But Oh, yeah, yeah.
But this is like sort of not.

It's not the same obviously
fighting mechanics, but, you know, somewhat early 3D
superhero games.

But as far as like overall
comics, Marvel, Spider Man, are you into it?
Is it sort of like another name or?
Oh, yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, no.
So I was a big superhero nerd growing up.
But I will say I, I did have comics and I read comics.
One of my favorite series was actually Daredevil.
Fun fact, that was one of my favorites.
But I, I, I won't say that I was like, like, I wasn't go to the I
I actually did have a comic store that I would go to and
book comics.

I had an extensive Archie Sonic
the Hedgehog comic collection, which is kind of funny.
Well, like like bind or separate 'cause I know they had.
Obviously they're separate.

Like was Sonic in Archie?
Sonic, it was like the Archie it, it wasn't Archie comics.
It was like Archie comics, like the brand.
Like they made a Sonic the

Hedgehog comic.
Yes, they made a Sonic the

Hedgehog comic.
And I had like dozens of them and they're still at my mom's,
like sitting there.

And then I have a couple
floating in there, like a couple

Daredevils, Spider Man's Batman.
I I had stuff like that.

But I, I won't say that I had an
extensive comic book knowledge.

Most of my exposure to
superheroes came from other forms of media.
Like I had tons of video games, this one included, I've watched.
Anyone's watching is just over your shoulder, that's all.
Yes, it's over my shoulder cartridge.
Talk about that in a SEC.

There's a story, The 90s show.
I watched X-Men.

I watched Spider Man, I watched
the Hulk, I watched Batman the animated series.
I would say between Batman the animated series and this one
were probably my like top 2 childhood cartoons to be honest.
I really loved it and actually

Spider Man Unlimited would
probably be #3 which shout out to the 10 people who watched
that, because that one was very unique and a sort of, I'd say
it's a pseudo sequel to the 90s series because it's not it's not
really a sequel.

It's kind of its own thing, but
it sort of was like implied that maybe it could be.
And then it it connects to this game in an interesting way,
Spider Man Unlimited.

So I'll just.
I know I know very little about that show now that I look it up.
I was like, oh, which one is that?
Yeah, I remember seeing this.

But I don't have them very much
because.

I ran unlimited.
Because of when it was codes, I was not watching that type of
show at that time.

So I, I, I know of it, but it's
available on Disney Plus, which makes sense.
But yeah, only ran for looks like two 2 1/2 ish seasons.
Yeah, not not.

A It wasn't a it wasn't a long
running one, but it had the coolest Spider Man costume ever.
It does look really cool, yeah.

It has like little web Cape and
stuff.

Yeah, it's got a web Cape.
Yeah.

What?
Dude, that costume is sick.

You can use the Spider Man
Unlimited costume in this game, by the way.
It doesn't have a Cape, but it's still cool.
Still that'd.

Probably be hard to do right to
animate and stuff, so that's fine.
Is this is I I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't know offhand 'cause I can't remember 'cause there's so
many at this point, but out of the spider man PlayStation games
that were have been out recently.
I bet this is one of the designs or maybe 1 is like inspired by
this if they got the rights to it, you know what I mean?
So anyways, so yes, so you do so you do have is is spider man
like one of like it's we don't have to like rank our favorites
or whatever, but is is it like one of your favorite characters
because.

I'd put them in the top ten.
I mean, who who doesn't love

Spider Man?
It's like if someone has like a top 10 comic book character
list, like I would be surprised if Spider Man's not on it.
Like you'd be very, very bougie

I guess if you didn't have
spider man on it, you'd be like

Spider man's the common man
favorites like.

I only pick C tier heroes.
If it ain't the random guy that showed up in in, I don't.
I don't even know what I was going to say.
Some sort of obscure comic book?

If their feet leave the ground,
they are not my heroes.

Like I like some obscure X-Men.
OK, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

His name is Icicle Tuts.
Iceman my ass.

He's much better than Iceman.
Icicle Boy my you know what?

Actually, when you sort of talk
about how you grew up on the shows and stuff, it's actually
not that different for me.

Batman the Animated Series is is
one of my favorite sort of show.

It's probably my favorite
cartoon from from growing up and one that I think largely holds
up now, which.

Is.
Oh yeah.

Yeah, so that one is one that
I've I've wanted to like legit sit down, revisit every episode
kind of thing.

It's just finding the time and
availability is a whole other reason as to why it's not
necessarily possible 'cause that unlike Spider Man Unlimited or
even the Spider Man cartoon lasted for I wanna say seven
seasons, like 6.

Like it was, it feels that long.
But it was a decent episodes anyways.
Great show.

I love that Batman was always
sort of my go to, mainly because

I grew up watching that show and
'cause I owned one of the Super

Nintendo games.
I don't remember exactly which one it was.
And then those, you know, those corny 90s movies came out and
those came out at the perfect time where I was old enough to
go to the theater with my friends.
Those were the Batman like I watched the other two Batman
movies before that, but those three that are not very good
movies, fun in their own way, but you know, went for the
cheese in a really strange way when you really look forever
like they're just, you know, sure, there's Tommy Lee Jones
and Jim Carrey.

I mean, that's great.
They ham it up in such a great way.
But like the movies aren't great.
So but those but those ones were like I went to the theater.
So they they stand out for me in a lot of ways.
Spider Man was always a hero that I really enjoyed just
because I think he's cool.

Like I just really like the
physicality of what Spider Man is and characters like that.
Same thing with you with actual comics.
I never really had them growing up.
I have it like you have you said you have a bunch of Sonic ones.
Honestly, I'd go to like one of the stores.
I grew up in an area where there was not enough people to even
have a comic book shop.

Like I would have had to drive
an hour to get to 1.

Like I just, it just wasn't a
thing.

So a lot of my experience with
it was the the movies, the TV shows and the video games.
That's that was my superhero experience for sure.
And eventually the movies that came out when Spider Man came
out, I think would be probably like the first one.
That is like a very obvious one because at the time I definitely
didn't know Blade was a comic book character.
I wouldn't have known.

Maybe Spawn.
But I don't even know if I saw that movie when it came out.
I probably saw it a few years later.
It's terrible movie, by the way, revisited a couple years ago.
It's so.

But have you seen the Spawn
animated series on HBO?

Because that's.
I have seen, I've seen a few episodes.
I haven't seen a lot of it, but

I have seen a few episodes,
Yeah.

I mean look, Spawn's a cool
looking character so it's like.

Very spider man, right?
Yeah, exactly.

It's Todd.
McFarlane, he made venom.

Exactly pretty.
Much venom.

Oh, Venom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Macfarthur made Venom.
Yeah.

So, yeah.
So not not too far off.

But Spider Man's always been one
of those characters that like if there's a game coming out,
especially when the new ones came out, like not only was it
did they look good when they were sort of saying, hey, we're
making a Spider Man.

The, the the developers that
made it or make great games and all these things, like, of
course I'm going to play them.

They're fantastic.
So it's kind of excited to revisit this one or play it.
And I did grow up playing a couple of Spider Man games
around this era as well.

I believe growing up I had more
experience playing the ones that were loosely based around the
movies and the PlayStation version of this one.
But I do remember getting my hands on the 64 one.
I just don't know if I can differentiate the two in my mind
from from my memory and stuff around that time 'cause there
was just a lot of this kind of stuff going on.
So that's my sort of history with it and stuff like that.
Did you play this and did you enjoy it then or did you enjoy
it now?

I enjoyed it then, I enjoy it
now.

Yes, I had this game growing up.
I have actually played three versions of this game throughout
my life.

I have played the N64 version,
obviously, I played the

PlayStation One version and I
played the Windows version.

I guess it would be Windows,
right?

I mean PCPC version.
It's one of those games that I think was it was very popular on
the school ground.

It's just one that we all were
like, oh, this is a cool game and we all had to get it.
And so like everybody had a different version.
And so I'd go to my friend's house and I actually at the time
loved looking at those versions to see the difference because
each one of them was different, different looking, had different
functionality.

Super cool.
The this game is 1.

I remember my dad getting for me
and I actually like years and years ago after I I had a pretty
substantial N64 collection.

I think I've talked about this
before.

I had probably like 7080 games
somewhere around there.

Oh, was it that much?
Oh.

Shit, it was that much and I had
sold it because broke college kid wanted money.
Because life.

Stupid stupid will never do it
again.

Everyone has to do it at some
point in their life.

Like I'm so thankful I kept my
GameCube collection which is just still massive.
Right.

But I went back to the same shop
years later and found this.

Come on.
And it is indeed my cartridge that I sold to him and I
reacquired it and I knew it was mine.
And this is very particular reason and disgusting.
My brother had spilled milk on my N64 games.
OK.

And there was still like dried
milk in the lining.

And I've cleaned it off since
then, obviously.

But I was like, Oh my gosh, this
is mine.

So I immediately bought it back.
So I have it.

And funny enough, one of the few
remnants of my N64 collections that also was retained, which is
even more rare than the actual cartridge itself.
Oh.

I have the instruction booklet
for this specific game.

Wow, this is like the only.
Just hard to find in general.

Like this is like the only
instruction booklet that I have for my N64 that I retained.
I think I had, I think I had

Kirby 64.
Some of them are still at my mom's.
This one, I was like, oh, I have this and I grabbed it and packed
it up.

Kirby 64 Star Fox, I think that
may be it.

And this one.
And I like never.

Something typically you're
hanging on to, honestly.

Never held on to the instruction
booklets, but I for some reason

I hung on to this one.
It's in really good shape too.

It's in very good shape and it's
got really cool art in it, so

I'll kind of hold it up to the
camera if I can.

It's got like these little like
hand drawn looking spider man.

Yeah, just yeah, just like
throughout, throughout the thing.
And it'll tell you that's sweet focus.
It'll tell you like, oh gosh, come on.
It'll get there.

The other one I got.
There it'll tell you things about the game.
Obviously normal instruction booklet stuff, but there are a
few like funny things.

First off, it'll tell you like
our hero spider man.

OK.
It gives you like a little like details about about him.
OK so Spider man name Peter

Parker age early to mid 20s
identity secret it just said his name first appearance amazing
fantasy 15 August 1962 and then it says relatives Mary Jane
Watson Parker which at this point they're married in this
game fun fact Mary and Richard

Parker parents deceased.
It's just like a little synopsis of his life.
Affiliate affiliates, Avengers and then it'll.
It'll say like enemies.

This is kind of funny.
Yes.

Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus,
Venom, Carnage, Electro,

Vulture, Sandman, Lizard,
Mysterio, Kingpin, Chameleon,

Craven, Scorpion and many others
gives you his height which is 5/10 his weight which is 165.
160. 50 My he's about my my build apparently.
Wow, what's it like to be under 180?
Jeez.

Yeah, well, that's right.
I mean, I'm I'm, I'm just over 6 feet, so that's part of it, but.
Well, that's that's nice.

Nice for you powers.
This is interesting to me because it says superhuman
strength and then it gives you in parentheses class 10 and it
says equals 10 tons.

So he's a 10 ton?
10 tons or pushing 10 tons?

Which I think they, I think
since then they have actually increased that.
I'm pretty sure he's even stronger now.
I think that's that's an interesting, that's very strong.
And tons is crazy, yeah.

Right.
Superhuman reflexes, superhuman agility, Spider sense that warns
him of pending danger and gives him the ability to to detect
signals from his spider tracers.

Interesting detail.
Ability to adhere to walls and most other surfaces with his
extremities.

OK.
But here's the best part on the extremities, though.
Right, right, right.

Important detail.
They do not clarify.

Yeah, that's right.
How many?

Of his extremities.
Right, gameplay tips.

And it gives you just a bunch of
like random things.

Like for example, sometimes it's
better to run than fight.

Even superheroes know when a
fight can't be won.

Use discretion when confronted
with some enemies.

But here's my favorite one from
the page.

Spidey may be a superhero, but
he doesn't like water.

Avoid swimming at all costs.
Yeah, no fucking shit.

But that that's about it.
I just thought that was really that's.
Great.

No, no, that's good because how
many times have me specifically, how many times have we said
like, oh, if I had the manual, maybe it would have helped me
with this.

Or like we talked about that
like with Quest 64 was a perfect example where it was like you go
into it and if you had the manual, it would have really
helped you with like, oh, what can I build towards or what are
my abilities or how does this work or that work with a game
that doesn't tell you that much, right?
With this, it doesn't really tell you that much either.
Every once in a while it does, but those little tips and stuff,
which were often included in a bunch of manuals would help you
would would definitely be be some aid and stuff.
So the fact that you have it, it's an incredible condition, by
the way, which I think I already said, but I, I man, I wish I had
more of those too.

That's stuff.
It's cool, it's cool.

And especially just seeing all
the art and stuff like the front, the front cover.
Yeah, it's a great, it's a great cover, honestly, it's a really
cool cover.

They drop it on the title screen
for some reason.

This is my my only complaint.
This cartridge is red.

I love when they do the
different colored cartridges, which is sick.
And it's red for Spider Man.

It's got like high contrast.
The label's like really dark colored, but they didn't put
Spider Man on the freaking label on the cartridge.
OK, It's the same image.

It's the same image on the
manual as the cartridge.

It's the same image on the title
screen but they literally just like cut Spider Man out of it
and it's just the building.

What's on the bottom there other
than the actual ESESRB rating?

What's on the bottom?
It it's.

Oh.
Activision, Activision and

Marvel, and then obviously the
Nintendo Seal of Quality.

Let's see if I can get.
It oh, that's why so I feel like so the ESRB needs to be there.
I guess Activision does but like if you take the 64 logo away you
you could have put spider man on there.
I mean, they could have just put

Spider Man behind the logo, I
think.

I think that's.
I know.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Like what does it matter if it covers his hand?
Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

It just feels weird.
It's like they they took the time and effort to make that
specific image without Spider

Man.
Yeah.

Rather than just plastering it
and resizing it, it just feels.

That's strange.
I'm gonna see if this works.

Actually, our background for the
episode, if anyone's watching, is the cover.
I'm gonna.

Whoops, What did I just do?
Whoops.

There we go.
We're good.

Figured out the video, Dan.
You got a story, man.

You always got stories.
This is great.

This is hey, This is why I keep
you around, man.

I'm a.
Storyteller, What can I say?

I.
Love story time I have I have no stories with this game at all
It's what I just said so I OK, so before I get into my sort of
overall thoughts, one of my favorite parts of this that I
completely forgot about did not know about I'm going to pull up
the video and we're going to play a little bit of it because
the way this game starts and the intro and all that is one of my
favorite parts of this.

I think it's after this point,
so I got to like skip ahead just a tiny bit, just like show we're
at Expo 2000, speed up of the story, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

Then let's go.
Let's hear it.

Also that that's kind of cool.
Whoops, that's that's an ad.

That's not cool.
But YouTube the the comic book stuff, which we'll get into
because that's one of the differences with these games is
the comic book screens and stuff is is something that you see in
in this version, which I which I

I enjoyed as well.
That's stylized anyway.

And then you get this.
Welcome, true believers and newcomers alike.
Spider Man Co creator Stan Lee here once again we find our hero
Peter Parker, better known around the world as the Amazing
spider man, in a heap of trouble.
But this is just the beginning.

Spidey fans.
So getting ready for a true superhero action thriller packed
to the brim with thrills and chills, twists and turns, more
super villains that you can shake, a web ad, and of course
non-stop web slinging, wall crawling action.
So good, right?

I love that.
Oh, and then some voice acting black cat.
What's going on?

Yeah.
I know there's been some trouble, but the bank's being
robbed and they've got hostages.

Use your Spidey compass to get
to the bank quickly.

Use the Spidey.
Compass your Spidey compass.

The some of the actors, the
voice actors from the 94 series are in this.
I didn't write all their names down, but one of the ones that I
did write down was Jennifer

Hale, who's the one that does
Black Cat there.

And she's become like a huge
voice actor over the years.

She did do that character in the
animated series as well.

But one of the most notable
things that she did is she's the female version of of Shepherd in
the Mass Effect series.

So if you play a Shepherd,
that's that's her voice and she's done a bunch of other
stuff, but that's like one of the more recent recognizable
ones.

Anyways, I thought this game was
OK.

I just thought it was OK.
Not going to lie, I thought I would enjoy it more than I did.
I don't think it's bad.

I don't think it's something you
avoid.

I don't think it's on the lower
tier of any list of any of that type of stuff.
But there were just certain points of frustration and
annoyance maybe that I got with it and probably like a
limitation of what they could do with this is probably part of
it.

First and foremost, we we talk a
lot about playing with a game with, with the 64 controller or
not, what that's like, if it's good, things like that.
And then also the camera, which is also been a problem for a lot
of people when it comes to this generation and a lot of time
with the 64 and sort of early 3D and everything.
And I think those two things for me were not very good in this
game.

I did not really love the way
that the controls were laid out.

And I thought the camera was.
This is one of the only games that the camera frustrated me
mostly because when you are in tighter quarters, it like you
can't move the camera is, is the is the biggest issue right?
And when you're in tight quarters and you're moving
somewhat fast, I feel like spider man's a little bit slow
in this game at times, but that's fine.
It, it is what it is.

The speed of the game is not
crazy fast anyway, so it's fine.

But when you're in tight
quarters, I I just felt like I was just battling way too much
with my surroundings.

The camera tries to lock itself
behind Spider Man pretty much all the time, which I am fine
with.

I have said on this show and on
others, like when it comes to especially like the early 3D
stuff, I like that the games will give you an option to lock
the camera behind your character if you have the option to.
Because I just like that perspective.
It works better for me.

And then I'll move it when I
need to move it to look around a corner or up or down or
whatever, right?

Not everyone's like that.
That's just how I enjoy playing 3D action games like this and in
this it doesn't give you that choice.
It will just try its hardest to always be behind Spider Man
Whenever you get a chance to just sit still for half a
second, boom it locks behind him.
Boom, it locks behind him.

When sometimes that's OK, but it
I felt like I was fighting with it quite a bit.
So I don't think that the gameplay is terrible.
There's some frustrations with some of the gameplays.
They played through it as well, but those two things were, I
felt like, I honestly, I felt like I was fighting with it more
than than I wanted to and that's what held me back from it a
little bit.

I again, I don't think it's a
bad game.

I do think there's a lot of
charm here.

There's a lot of cool ideas.
I do like the fact that you can kind of swing whenever you want
and you can kind of get up on the ceiling really quickly and
get across the walls and stuff.

Like it is pretty fun that way
to be able to do those moves as

Spider Man, at least most of the
missions are fairly varied, which is good too.
You're not always doing the same thing, which is very common in a
lot of like early ish superhero games.
You will go and be like, oh, save the hostages, oh, pick up
this, oh, go open that door.

Happened so often because really
they're just finding an excuse for you to do more things as
Batman or Superman or Spider Man or whatever, right?
That doesn't happen too often here, which which is really
cool.

Different environments, you're
not really repeating a lot of the areas very much at all,
which is kind of which is kind of fun.
And there's boss fights, which for me were hit and miss as
well.

But I just, I overall I found it
just OK.

I don't what about you?
I mean, you have a history with it, so it sounds like you
probably were into.

Yeah.
So one thing I wanted to say, jumping back to the voice
acting.

Yeah, yeah, threw me off.
But it also didn't because I liked Spider Man Unlimited.
But the voice of Spider Man in

Spider Man Unlimited is a
different voice actor than the 90s series.
And so the voice of Spider Man

Unlimited is this Spider Man in
this game.

So that's the same voice actor
as that series.

But then other characters like
Black Cat are the voice of the 90s series.
So it was, it was sort of this weird like mash up and sort of
transitional period I think between the you're.
You're gonna recognize the difference where I, I, I don't
approach it in that way 'cause I didn't.
I don't see it in that version, but that or hear it in that way.
But that makes sense.

I I realized it and I was like
why does he sound weird when I was when I was younger I was
like he sounds different but I but he doesn't but he sounds how
I remember.

I.
Was like I was like not grasping it until later I figured out oh
because I watched 2 separate series that in my head sort of
like meld into one right?

As a kid, those types of things
don't occur to you.

You just assume, oh, it's Spider
Man.

It's gonna be Spider Man.
But I did notice it.

It's like.
It's like for the same reason that the the 90s cartoon was way
more iconic than Spider Man

Unlimited.
But I did watch that too.

So it's this, it's the same
thing.

Like I watched Batman shows,
right?

And Kevin Conroy is the voice I
hear.

That's right.
Like if I look, if I look at a comic book, I hear Kevin
Conroy's voice A. 100%, man.

Oh yeah.
It's just one of those things.

And unfortunately, now we just
have to go back at and listen and watch those.
I mean a lot of work.

But the yeah, I, I, I was gonna
say that the if you haven't seen the prime Batman animated
series.

Oh, it's great.
That guy does a really good job at sort of replicating.
Yeah, it doesn't.

Sound exactly the same, but.
It's different, but it's still it's similar enough that you.
It's it's in the same approach.

It's the same approach, yeah.
Also, yeah.

So the is it, is it just called
Batman?

I can't remember if they just
called the Batman, but it came out I think last year.
If anyone hasn't watched it, that is one of the better,
definitely one of the better or best animated superhero shows
recently.

It's they did a great job with
that.

I really liked it too.
Yeah, it was really good and.

Especially if you like the
animated series like we've been talking about, you'll you'll
like it 'cause it it feels like an extension of that show for
sure.

And it's sort of like a
retelling.

It's it's different, but.
Yeah.

There's things, those things
you'd be like, wait, what?

Penguin's a woman.
Like, it's kind of weird, but you get used to it.
Just trust me.

Trust your boy.
Yeah, it's very good.

Yeah.
But yeah, this game, this game, sure, it's dated.
It's dated in control scheme.

If I if I just said to
summarize, there's there's there's a lot of good stuff
going on here though.

And you gotta give credit where
credit's due because the stuff they still use functionally in a
similar way even in newer games,

OK.
Whereas the last like 2 Spider

Man games that are on
PlayStation, they've kind of revamped things a little bit.
Sure, you know, that's just the the evolution of gameplay it's.
Literally 25.

We're sitting here literally 25
years later.

So yeah, but if you think about
it, this is Spider Man's first 3D outing.
This is the first 3D, and this is, I would say, to my
knowledge, this is the best superhero game on the N64.
I can't think of any superhero game that is bad.
I'll, I'll look them up while while we're talking just to be
like, Oh yeah, no, yeah.

And I can think of not The
Batman Beyond.

Or anything but.
Power Rangers.

Superman.
Like they're all relatively how?

Dare you?
How dare you be smart, Power

Rangers?
How dare you?

Right, Yeah well, yeah, OK, Mr.
He says Mr. Power Rangers game like every single episode for
like the past like 6 episodes.

I brought it up so you didn't.
Thank you for Sam.

Thank you for saving me from
myself.

Yes, you're welcome.
It's what I do.

But but this doesn't this is a
lot of cool things like the R button is swing.
OK?

That's the first thing we've
retained that that has been a thing.
The shoulder button is the swing button.
They did that here 1st works great.
It's got the web zip functionality to quickly get to
a location to the side above you.
You can aim your web, the web like impact webbing the ball,
the like shoot a web ball.

Essentially, there is a there is
a sequel to this game.

It's only on PlayStation.
One kind of interesting situation there.
I I there is a gameboy variant as well, which I which I have
and played.

But the the movie game, the
Spider Man movie game that is on game Q PS2, Xbox, all that
retains a lot of the gameplay functionality of this game and
just refines it a little bit before we before we transitioned
into the true like open world of

Spider Man 2.
So this laid the foundation and that game kind of pushed it to
its Max and kind of fixed all the issues.
I would say, though I would say that the issues are really minor
here.

The camera being the worst
offender I would agree, and that's mostly just due to the C
buttons actually become your attacks.
Yeah, down and and left.

I believe it is our punch and.
Kick down is punch, left is left kick.
I could have those reverse but

I'm pretty sure I'm right.
And then up is your webbing.

I don't know.
You should check the manual jiggy.
I don't.

Know.
Yeah, right.

Oh yeah, duh, up is your webbing
and then various things on like the right do different
functionalities depending on the orientation of the joystick.
So you can do I I call them Web

Fists, but apparently this game
in the instruction manual calls them Web spikes, which sounds
way crazier.

Spikes are.
Definitely just like balls on.

His name and you have a web
shield.

Yeah, you have a, you have a
couple different web-based defensive and enhancements and
then you can straight up just shoot a web and just keep
webbing up an enemy, which is, which is pretty awesome.
Which is fun.

The, the actual swinging
mechanic is like you have to be in range sort of of a building.
And once you are you, you trigger the, the thing.
And I, I always tried to do the whole like it.
So if you press, most people would either press R and then
you do like an automatic jump and swing, or they would jump
and then press R But did you know that you can do a faster
web swing if you quickly tap A and press R?
Like almost together.

Quickly OH.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, almost together.
What?

What does he do?
Like he he he does a launches himself faster.
He does, he does a shorter hop and it's it's a much like he
gets into the web swing way faster.
It's like he does, he does like a weird pose and he's like and
it's.

But what is that sort of like
like a?

It's not much faster, but it is,
it is a little bit, I know I it's an actual mechanic that it
says here, wait, if you press jump well in mid swing, Oh, no,
no, no, that's different.

Well, they called it breaking or
cutting webbing.

I think it's just a a playoff
that, but it's he does do a pose.
It's like it's like a faster.

Just try it, go back, press A&R
at the same time and it it's slightly faster.
I used to do things where I knew

I could get as much height as
possible when going to a building so that I wouldn't have
to scale it because the wall climbing, for me that's the
biggest.

It's really slow.
It's slow.

Cause Spider Man, one of the,
one of the things that really interests me about him, why I
always gravitated towards him is, is I like the speed.
And I said before, the physicality of Spider Man is
always really cool 'cause I'm,

I'm never gonna be that fast,
agile person.

So it's kind of cool to play as
that, as that physicality, right?
Like that's why I always sort of like that.
So I, I found like when you're doing like this, this mission
that we're sort of looking at now, it's a, a pseudo chase
mission type of thing.

But there are ones where you you
are chasing Venom for example and stuff like you need to be
quick, but you really slow down when he grabs onto the walls and
I.

Yeah.
Didn't love that, but I don't know.
Yeah, it's it's it, it's much slower paced.
It's it's not bad.

It's functional.
And they're actually two different wall climbing like
modes.

I guess it's I don't, I don't
know that one is particularly faster than the other.
I think when he when he goes on a specific surface, like maybe
it's a smaller surface or something or an angled surface,
he like kind of pulls his legs in and cross a little more like
a.

Like a puppy dog, I guess versus
like his like big strides, like his strides are way smaller.
Yeah, like right now we're watching where he's like, kind
of like shuffling almost.

Yeah.
And I feel like that might be a little bit slower, but I think
it's based on the, like, which of the?
Yeah.

So it's kind of cool.
They gave it a a bit of variation, yeah.
A different animation, yeah.

The combat itself I think
actually works pretty good.

I I don't know what you thought
about it, but I I think the the whole like comboing between
punching and kicking and you can jump and do sort of like a Sonic
style homing attack on enemies.

I think it works.
Yeah, I, I think actually now that I've, which I, you know,
just the other day we recorded a different episode.
I mentioned that I just started playing Sonic Frontiers for the
first time off the recommendation of yourself and
and friend of the show Matt

Stormageddon said, Oh yeah, no,
you you should give it a shot.

It was on sale and Steam.
So anyways, I started that and it does have that Sonic homing
attack thing in that game, obviously.
And now that I started playing that after I played this game,
it does actually kind of feel like that, which is kind of
cool.

Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and, and I so I think the,

I think you're right.
I do think that, you know, usually you press for for the
most part you're pressing punch or kick three times for like
this mini combo that will knock over or defeat most if not all
of the sort of basic henchman type enemies and stuff.
Right, Totally fine.

At least they don't, you know,
overstay their welcome with these enemies and stuff.
That would be more frustrating than anything.
Totally fine with all that.

I don't love most of the boss
fights with that, but I don't know that that's a limitation.
I don't know that that is because the combat is a problem
or because I was in those tight quarters and I was dealing with
the camera and the things that I mentioned before.
I think it was mostly because of that rather than, oh, this is
what you need to do.

These are the mechanics of how
you fight.

I don't think that's really what
the issue was.

So you have the web mechanic
where you can web guys up like you mentioned, you can put the
things on your fist, which makes you punch a little bit harder,
like you do more damage.

You have that shield, you have
all those things that you can actually implement, which is
fun.

So I don't think that was really
the issue.

I just most of the boss fights
and I did play through the whole game, most of the boss fights
kind of are frustrating honestly.
So yeah, I'm gonna flip.

I'm gonna flip the script here
because I like all of the boss fights.
Really.

I there's not even a single
boss.

Fight.
I don't.

I specifically found the venom
ones the the two venom ones to be insanely frustrating.
Like I I had to look up on the second one which is inside the
sewers.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where he's going from, I mean, yeah, that one I get.
I got what I needed to do, but to physically like use the
mechanics to get it done, I had to look up a thing that told me
like, oh, this is the ideal way of getting it done.
And I try to avoid that as much as I can.
I was never someone who wanted to put in cheats or wanted to
sort of look at like, guys, I want to, I want to solve these
things myself.

Especially with boss fights
because you're sort of trying to figure out the patterns, right?
And that's kind of fun.

It's almost like a mini puzzle.
I like that idea of boss fights in general.
I just, I was doing it for like half an hour and I just got to
like half of his health every single time, which is like 5
minutes, 5 minutes, 5 minutes.

And I'm like, I just want to get
to the next stage.

I want to experience the next
part of this game.

I want to keep going.
I'm having a good enough time that I want to keep going.
Can Venom just fucking die?

Can I just move on kind of
thing?

So like, that wasn't all the way
through, but I was a little disappointed that Venom, a
character that I really enjoy, frustrated me.
Yeah.

Well, Dave, there there's a
special way to deal with all of this, and it's just for you.
Cheats.

No, it's called kid mode.
Oh, that's true.

That's.
True, it gets a little web thing and everything.
It says kid mode.

Yeah.
And he's got like a, there's like a little like sort of
cartoony spider man that stands beside it and.
Everything.

Yeah, it's awesome.
What does it do cause 'cause it it just gives you unlimited
health or like what's the?

No, I don't think it's unlimited
health, but I think it's you.

You don't take as much damage,
and I think you also retain more webbing when you do things.
I think that's pretty much the difference.
It's a lot, a lot easier and you do more damage, but you can also
get those sort of special effects with different costumes,
which is a cool element of this game.
Oh, that's true.

You pick up the the the white
and Gray one which I can't remember what the name of it is
but.

Well, yeah, but did you dive
into the actual like other costumes from different?
I did.

I did.
But that's the one that you like commonly can like kind of come
across or.

Whatever.
Yeah, there's like a white spider armor that you can put on
and it's like a random collectible in levels, sometimes
in secret spots.

So you kind of want to look for
it and it'll give you basically another health bar.
It does.

It gives you another health bar
and I think it gives you more webbing I think, but I I can't
remember exactly so if it did.

No, I don't.
It doesn't give you webbing, I think it just gives you health.
But it looks cool and you can retain it as long as you don't
lose it.

And if you get another one, it
just fills it back up if you still have it.
So that's it.

It's, it's cool 'cause it's a
collectible that is usable, right, 'cause there's other
collectibles in this that are like comic book covers and
stuff, which are really, it's cool that you can find those and
stuff too.

And you get more webbing and
more health and stuff.

But that's one where he like
literally puts on the suit and, and that's fun.
I like that.

Yeah, and there's there's tons
of secrets to find in this game, like lots of like Easter eggs
and things, which I really appreciate as someone who's like
dove into this game quite a bit growing up.
I love like this boss fight in particular is very iconic to me.
The rhino fight, you just get them to slam into things.
I like this one, it was fun.

There's, there's, there's cool,
there's cool boss.

Every boss is cool looking.
I, I, I get it couldn't be everybody's cup of tea.
Like it isn't Dave's cup of tea, but Rhino.
I mean, you, you dodge fundamentally every boss kind of
has a different way of fighting them.
And that's probably what is sort of frustrating because it's it's
almost gimmicky a little bit.

You know what though?
But variety is good.

Like variety's fine.
I like, I I'm I'm OK with that.

I'm OK with the fact that
they're different.

I just, I just found the way
that Venom worked to be frustrated.
The rhino one, I agree.

It's pretty early on.
I think it's like the second boss after Scorpion.
I think it's the second one.

Yeah, Scorpion is the.
I do like it because you kind of have to like guide him to where
you want him to charge at you and stuff, and there's a couple
like ways to do it and I was OK with that.
And the, the the first, the first fight you really when
you're when you're facing against scorpions a little
different too, because you have to save J Jonah Jameson from
him.

And it's a fight where you kind
of want to just throw a bunch of crap at him, like just pick up
stuff.

And it, it's one of the things
in this game that's kind of cool.
It's like the environment itself isn't really destructible, but
you can pick up a lot of things in the environment and just kind
of throw it.

It's very cool.
But you, you fight, you fight everybody you fight except Green
Goblin.

You do not fight Green Goblin,
but you fight Venom, Mysterio,

Rhino, Scorpion, Doc Ock,
Carnage is in there.

A version of Doc Ock that has
meshed with which interestingly enough.
I did monster ock is what they call.
Yeah, yeah.

Is was created specifically for
this game, which I didn't know.

I thought like usually, you
know, there's a lot of ideas in comics and a lot of characters
and especially like you mentioned how like just now, but
also just like growing up, how there's all the like the the
manual says these villains and more Spider Man's like Batman
has so many enemies to choose from.
They find a way to get a lot of them in here.
The big name ones for the most part, but like, yeah, like
pretty much all of the big ones you can think of, they're in
here and they find a way to to to make it work.
But I didn't realize that the the sort of and the last boss
where Carnage is mesh with Doc

Ock was created just for this.
I just assumed that that was an idea that came from a comic
because of course it would, right.
No big.

Deal if it did, but.
Yeah, that was, that was, oh, actually this is like, hold on,
this is, this is kind of a fun part here where I'm gonna pull
up the.

Dialogue.
Yeah, the dialogue where you're you're chasing Venom through the
city.

This is one of the parts where I
think the swing mechanics like you were talking about really
work and feel kind of fun and stuff.
You're chasing him and you have to sort of keep as close to
Venom as you can.

This is pretty early on in the
game, within the first couple hours or whatever, but you
chase, you chase him and then he jumps through like a window.
If people aren't watching this, he jumps through a window in a
in a, a building and there's all this like dialogue between the
two and stuff, which is which is kind of fun, so.
It's basically like, yeah.

Lookout lady.
Oh my goodness.

Get out of my way, nerd.
Get out of my way.

What is that first step?
It's a doozy, lookout lady.

Oh my goodness, rookie.
And that whole thing that that you just heard of them of him
talking and all that, you're not even controlling it.
It's like almost like a mini cutscene.
It's.

Yeah, it's, it's a small little
cutscene there and it's filled with a bunch of moments like
that.

And like I said, cameos and
things to look out for it.

It's just got a lot of cool
stuff.

Like there's a there's a special
place where you can actually find a reference to the Green
Goblin.

You can find out like his secret
hideout or I guess it could be the Hobgoblin.
I don't remember which one in particular it is, but it's
pumpkin bombs so you know it's him.
This game focuses a lot on symbiotes.
I think would probably be the.

Yep.
Would you say that?

Would you say it's the main one
of the main plot points?

I mean it's Doc Ock is the
overall like bad guy, bad guy.

Yeah, So the setup of the
stories like Doc Ock is coming up with this like new technology
or something that he that he shows off at like a conference
and was oh, Doc Ock is he's a good guy now.
Hey, he's, you know, like Spider

Man's like, oh, maybe Octavius
has turned things around a little bit and that's kind of
like the little like sort of note and voice over at the
beginning.

Eventually you just realize
that's just, you know, for show and he's actually, you know,
doing doing bad things behind the scenes sort of idea, right.
But yeah, I I think you're right.
I think Doc got is there, but you're not really actively
dealing with OC until the end.

So I do think that it's pretty
much like the symbiotes and and stuff like that leading up to
that point.

So, yeah, and, and a good
stretch, which is what we're watching right now, a good
stretch in like the sewers, which is a lot of like.
Lizard.

Yeah, Lizard.
So.

Which is interesting enough that
Lizard's not even in this game.

Apparently that was something
they wanted to do and they had to cut it, which I believe is in
the PlayStation version I have to find.
I wrote it down here.

Where is it?
There's a.

There's a little interaction you
can have with Lizard.

Oh, is there?
Yeah, there's like a secret tunnel in the sewers and you can
find him at a gate and he talks to you.
Yeah, that's.

OK, so according to lead
designer Chad Finley, the Lizard was meant to be a boss in the
final sewer level, which I think ends up being Venom and Spider
Man would have fought Venom on top of the Brooklyn Bridge.
But because of time constraints and development, both of those
ideas were scrapped.

And I think that's pretty sure
that's referring to the 64 version specifically.
I don't know if any of that stuff is somewhat shared in
PlayStation One, but it's probably I, I I doubt they could
do that much.

Yeah, I'm.
I'm pretty sure the game itself is is the same like story wise
and level wise.

I don't I don't know that
there's any exclusive levels between the the versions, right?
The main thing, the main thing between the versions, the
PlayStation version looks the worst, like kind.
Of rough I was.

I was surprised.
I thought it was going to look a little.
I mean not smooth, but smoother.

If that makes sense.
Yeah, it.

It looked up some video of it
and I'm like I.

Don't know the models and stuff
are very alias, like very pixelated.
It's not it's not like bad.

It's not gonna ruin your
experience if that's the version you have, but you do get some
perks.

There are some perks.
Obviously audio quality is like the standard, like bump up from
everything.

And this has fully animated
cutscenes on the PlayStation.

Right.
That's one of the things that we

I definitely wanted to mention.
Yeah, that is the biggest thing, because on the N64 version they
get around it by showing you screen grabs from the cutscene
videos and then making it sort of like a comic book where you
turn the page, which I think is a very clever way to make
something that's sort of a disadvantage, almost like a
stylistic approach.

Yes IA 100% agree.
If anything, I like So what what's what's?
What's weird is that it's basically a screenshot.
Yeah, but.

With with that looks like a
panel from a from a comic book.

Now I like the idea of that.
If it wasn't almost like a straight up screenshot, I think
some of them would look a little better than others.
But the idea, the stylistic idea, like you just said, I
actually think is great.

I actually would I, I don't know
if I prefer it because I didn't play through the PlayStation
version, but like it does not take away from the game at all
that you haven't, if anything, that style to make it feel even
more like you're in a comic book.
Because like I mentioned before, when you start a level and if
anyone was watching it, you see the cover of a comic book and
like that stage or that set of levels, it is themed around this
comic book that you were looking at at the beginning.
And then things get going and you get the play in between.
Instead of having a cutscene, you have panels that are
potentially within that comic book.
I think that's a cool idea and I think that works like I almost,
I think I actually do prefer it now that I talk it through just
because of that.

I don't need a hand drawn
version of of what the cutscenes were.
That's totally fine.

That's not what I'm looking for.
But I stylistically 100% agree.

I actually, I actually think
it's almost a better way to go.

Like why use up the data and
effort to do that when you could have put it towards something
else, which is what they do because they're on a cartridge
which has obviously has little patience, so.
I think if I were to do anything different, I think I would try
to subtly animate these and just like very minor things like this
specific screen grabber looking at Venom is behind spider man
and he's saying your shoes are untied.
Perker.

I think by the way, great.
It would be cool if spider man and Venom say spider man was
getting slightly smaller and

Venom was getting slightly
bigger.

So it just it puts a little bit
of motion in it like a little motion comic.
I think that would that would just be that would make the best
of both worlds.

I.
Think or just like like it zooms in on them or something.
Yeah, just.

Some sort of just some sort of
movement to make it a little more visually interesting than
just screen.

Grabs very minor, but just a
little something, yeah?

But like there's, there's one
instance where the like the we saw it at the very end of the
first level where the spider emblem comes on and like that
transition like black to black screen that adds so much.
Just having that little thing at the end like that.
It just it looks really cool.

I I also think visually this
game looks pretty good on N64.

I do too.
It's very colorful, it's very vibrant.
It's very like, I don't know, it just looks good for an early 3D
game.

I I like it.
I think the.

Main the main characters, which
would be spider man and the main villains all look pretty damn
good.

You know, and, and it's not
like, you know, they're all it's not like venom is just has like
a has a different suit, but he looks like spider man, You know,
like they he could have, they could have maybe quote UN quote
gotten away with that, where they're just like, oh, whatever,
He's just he's got the the sort of blue and the white and big
teeth and that's it.

No, no, he looks bigger, he's
hulkier.

Rhinos, the same thing.
Scorpions is like all these

Mysterio, like they all look
different.

They all have different
physicality and all that stuff.

And that's something you could
maybe not avoid, but something that didn't have to be a point
of them to do And and it's it does make a difference.
Like it feels like you're like when you when you fight against
Rhino or you fight against

Venom, Spider Man needs to feel
physically like he needs to use his abilities in order to
survive and win the fight.

And that's what these feel like,
which again, could be passed, passed through and just not.
Yeah, well, whatever.

We'll we'll find another way.
It's it's just about the punching and kicking in the
webs.

There's not to be about the
other stuff.

And they, they made that work.
I, I, I think it's, I think it looks good.
And, and like I mentioned before, I don't, I don't think
the missions are the issue for me at all in this game.
It's all the other stuff that

I've mentioned.
So not only does the game look colorful and look pretty good, I
agree, But there's a lot of different things you, you do in
this and there's a lot of different areas that you have to
fight through and, and work through.
And that takes effort, that takes design, that takes all
these things that, that come along with, you know, level
design and, and graphics and all those things that needed to
happen.

And largely that's I, I agree.
I think it's pretty good.

I this part of the game, which
is like what, a third, maybe halfway?
We're in the sewer.

That's a halfway probably.
Yeah, but halfway, at a certain point, I just wanted to get the
fuck out of the sewer.

I was like, I'm done with the
sewer.

Like it.
It's not as colorful, which, OK, you're in a sewer.
I get it.

Like I'm not looking for neon
lights in a, you know, a rave, which I guess could happen, just
happen in the comic book.

If you're what was the 90s
Batman movies, that'd be a rave in that sewer for sure.
The Schumacher movies, there'd be a rave happening in that
sewer somewhere.

I, I just the enclosed areas,
the very much like the tightness of this area, the less colorful
nature of it.

I just found it less
interesting.

I think, I think the tightness
is probably the worst culprit here because it it sort of slows
things down and you're not particularly fast to begin with.
It's more of a, it's more of a beat up these enemies move on to
the next section sort of area.

And and avoid the water.
And avoid the water.

Yes, it is cool how to use your
webs to like flip switches and stuff and it gives you some cool
wall climbing segments I think to explore.
Spider man goes into the sewers a lot in general in like the
shows and the comics like he's always in the sewers.
He's arguably one of the most sewer like if you had to put.
Well known sewer residents.

Yes, if you had to put
superheroes up and how many times they go into the sewer,
Spider Man and Batman both go to the sewer quite a bit.
That's right.

And it's like, what?
How much crime really happens in the sewer?
Apparently quite a bit.

Batmans literally got an
alligator.

I think it depends on your
villain.

That's what it is.
Batmans got killer croc and spider man's got the lizard and
reptiles like sewers.

That's what it is.
So if you got a reptile villain, they got to be based in the
sewer.

But because there's no other
water anywhere close to a city like New York, obviously.
True, that's true.

It's the pseudo water levels,
which we don't need.

You don't have to have a water
level in your game, people.

Just let me just say that out
loud.

You don't have to have a water
level.

Everyone does it.
You don't need it.

So, so The thing is about the
water, which Jiggy mentions a while ago now when he was when
he was reading the manual.

And the reason why we're joking
about it is because we're not seeing it in this this
playthrough, But I definitely ran into it.
The second, the split second that Spider Man touches water in
this game, you're dead.

Yeah.
Like, you just see his limp body floating through the water.
That's it.

That's all you see.
And it's crazy how quick it happens because it's almost
like, wait, wait, what did I do?

What?
What just happened?

What?
Oh, I'm in water.

Oh, that.
It's jarring.

Honestly, I find it to be
jarring and it's almost comical a couple times that it happened
that I didn't know water was there, especially in the sewer
levels because you have to kind of like look down some spots and
stuff.

I was like, well fuck, at least
the the safe states are not not safe states, but the safe points
are a little bit forgiving, so you're not going through the
whole level.

Yeah, I never thought, never
thought.

Oh crap I gotta replay this
again and do.

All this I gotta play the last
20 minutes over and over like it doesn't do that, which is which
is good, so at least it knows.

Yeah, and I, I wanted to say
just just to talk about the combat again for just a second,
of course.

So like the combos you do a
combo of like 3 punches and three kicks, OK.
And we're watching someone play.

To be honest, they're not very
good.

This looks like me so.
They well, they're not there's there's a lot of combos you can
do, varying your kicks and punches.
That's right.

And there are punches that you
can literally throw that will like launch your enemy way
farther and utilizing those in like strategic places.
Like he could just punch them off the edge right now and not
using any of your web-based attacks or your shield or
anything like that.

I puts you you're suffering like
use your whole arsenal of abilities and you'll you'll have
more fun.

First of all, you'll look cooler
and it it just it helps.

It helps.
Spider man has got abilities.

Use them.
And the cool thing about the costumes cycling back to that,
switching out to alternate costumes.
There are a bunch of different costumes that have different
effects.

For example, there is the you
can get the Symbiote costume and get the black suit and it has
unlimited webbing.

You can get you can be Spider
Man 2099 and he's stronger.

His hits are doubled.
You can be Captain Universe and just beat everything in the game
because you're invulnerable.

You have a limited weapon.
That was the thing, and I never actually got the.
That would have been so cool.

Oh yeah, or my personal
favorite, Spider Man Unlimited, who can turn invisible, right?
Like, that's pretty awesome.

That's cool.
So and, and like you said earlier, how this game has sort
of been was like a template for a lot of stuff after it.
Sure you can come up with this idea without this game existing,
I get it.

But in the modern Spider Man
games, part of the fun is switching over to other suits.
Only some of them have other stat abilities from what I
remember.

Most of them are just are just
cosmetic and stuff.

But hey, this did it first.
Some of them have negative stat abilities, which is kind of
funny.

Like you can be Peter Parker and
he only can carry up to two web cartridges.
Really.

Yeah.
And there's like a quick change where it's Peter Parker with a
mask on.

It's really funny.
That's great.

This, this level that we're
watching right here.

This is where you can actually
interact with the lizard.

Yeah.
So you're sort of going.

Through like a mini maze, almost
in the stores.

Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but looking for the Easter eggs is like one of my favorite
things in this game, and finding different characters and
different references.

And that leads me to I I don't
wanna, I don't wanna.

I'll just gloss over.
Cheat codes are a thing.

There is like big head mellow.
There's like the classic one.

This is one of the games I
remember the cheat code I used as a kid, which is it's like
true blever, which is true believer, but it was like
spelled slightly different and it basically just unlocks
everything.

So you can just like punch it
in.

You get all the levels, you get
all the costumes, you get everything.
I did that as a kid and it's like one of the few for my
little like got from the store cheat code 101 cheat code book
or whatever.

That's one of the passwords that
I remembered because I used it all the time.
That's there's very few of those.
I think it's is it the classic

Konami one that everyone kind of
has?

Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, up.

Down, down, up.
Xbya start that one.

Yeah, that one.
I used that one, I know off by hand because I used all the time
in Battletoads Double Dragon, that game for the SNES, because
you could unlock every stage and you started with 10 lives or
unlimited lives or something like that.
And it's those games are tough.

Those Double Dragon games, those
kind of games from the mid 90s, like they're they're difficult.
So and yeah, and then Konami made those games.
So that's the way I always.

Remember, there is one cheat
code that is possibly the greatest cheat code in the
history of cheat codes, and it's in this game.
It is not on the N64 version.

Oh shit.
I'm trying to see, I I just had to Google it right now to see.
I knew it was on PC.

It looks like it is on the
PlayStation version as well.

It is what if mode and yeah,
what?

That's those.
Yeah, already that.

Sounds.
Cool.

Those familiar with Marvel
Comics and What If storylines, even even the latest series on
Disney Plus.

What if alternate Very?
Lines.

Very good.
Essentially you punch this cheat code in and it changes things in
the game, and the things that changes range from epic to
hilarious.

OK, I'm gonna read some of these
because they are just fan freaking tastic.
Hold on, I'm gonna make you larger on the screen so we have
some story time.

It breaks down pretty much every
level on this little guide I have what what happens when you
enter the what if code.

So for example, level 1, it
changes the building to the

Neversoft Office, which
Neversoft is the company that developed this game.
Level 2, you can actually go to the Fantastic Four building and
the Human Torch will be on top of it.
And let me read this.

He says.
He says something like he says like, we're not here right now,
like the Fantastic Four's not here right now, and then it
flies away.

It's OK.
This isn't super detailed, but

I'm just going off memory a
little bit.

Hostage situation Level 3, where
the second hostage is kept.

Enter where he is and stand on
the black platform.

Spidey dance.
Spidey dances.

And yeah, it says I recommend
using the Peter Parker costume here.
I don't know if that makes it different or just funnier.
Yeah.

Level 4, stop the bomb.
You find a bloody message written on the wall in the room
where where the gold is.

Level 5, race to the bugle.
I remember this one.

Ghost Rider can actually be seen
riding up one of the buildings, which is pretty cool.
On his motorcycle.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, instead, instead of exchanging witty remarks,
Scorpion and J Jonah Jameson say

Marco Polo.
Oh my God, yes.

Because if if anyone hasn't
played this game, Jameson is hiding behind like, you know,
desks and things like that in his office while Scorpion tries
to find him.

That's amazing.
And when when Scorpion breaks through the wall he yells here's
Johnny.

Which is funny.
There is a mini game in level 7, the police chopper chase.
Oh yeah, Level 8 missile attack when going past The Wolverine
poster on the left side of the building, there's a quote, I
guess, Spidey quote, building top chase.
Let me see.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna skip ahead
a little bit 'cause there's, there's just like a ton of stuff
here.

But that's a lot of stuff
already like that.

Oh yeah, they add.
There's like there's one part that has the submariner.
Oh shit.

I think there's more lizard
interaction but the best thing, let me find it out here it is
the very end with the monster

Ock fight.
Yeah.

Or maybe it's maybe it's right
before the Monster Ock fight.

It's like Doc Ock's office.
It makes.

Everything like Doc Ock fight?
Yeah.

It makes everything like Barbie
and pink.

Like his whole office is like,
come on Barbie, let's go Barbie.

It's freaking hilarious.
I remember it.

It was just so funny.
I was trying to find like screenshots of it.
I keep seeing like just YouTube videos and.
Stuff like that.

Oh here it is, actual thing.
Spidey versus garnage.

Sharks and whales circled around
the ocean bed outside the fight.

Submariner will be watching the
fight on the back of a whale.

Hold on this I have to see now.
Spider man PS1 what if what if code.
I'm gonna try and find a video.

Because there's also a thing
where, and I'll just briefly highlight that this game gives a
Canon, Canon nautical, a cannon, a cannon reason for there being
fog in the world and not being able to go on the street.
Oh, that's right.

And that's Doc Ock releases a
bunch of fog that's like poisonous, right?
Like a.

Poison or something?
Yeah.

Which isn't, wasn't there?
Isn't there another game that has?
I feel like there was another one.
There, I don't know, but I thought it was really funny.
And in this one, the fog producer turns into a giant
banana.

And yeah, it's hilarious.
You can see a picture of that.

There's like, they're all like
just giant bananas.

It's just silly.
It's, it's like the best mode ever.
It's like the best cheat code ever.
It does.

So it changes something in just
about every single level, or adds things to levels.
And like, deep cuts on some of them too, right?
Like, that's, that's what's even better about it.
OK.

I think I found, oh, I found
like the psychedelic doc thing.

Hold on.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna grab this.
There we go back here.

I got to find it.
Share screen.

Sorry, bear with me, people.
I got to.

I got to find this.
I think this is it.

Is that it?
No, that's not the one.

Is that it?
Nope.

Where?
Come on.

Come on now.
Come on.

Where is it?
There it is.

Share.
There we go.

There it is.
Psychedelic.

I was thinking, I was thinking
it was Barbie going off memory, but yeah, it's like some of the.
Holy crap this is awesome.

What the?
What on earth?

It's some like playthrough but
like, look.

At that, there's like, it's
amazing, literally.

Looks like it's someone was
hopped up on drugs and.

There's like, there's like pink
flowers and.

Flowers with sunglasses.
On flowers with sunglasses there's like an image.
I'm assuming it's like one of the developers faces.
Like it looks like a meme.

Yeah, yeah, it does look like a
meme, Yeah.

Oh, it says Doctor Ock, doesn't
it?

It's funny, it's very silly, and
it's just sprinkled goodness throughout the whole thing.
So that is one reason why I would push someone to not play
the N64 mode and play one of the other versions just to try this
mode exclusively.

It's very cool and it's it's
just fantastic.

It's such a fun.
Idea I love.

That yeah.
And it it just pushes it.

It gives you a reason to replay
this game just to see like everything that's changed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's it's fun, but you don't.
Get that often, honestly, like there they'll be ports and
they'll be basically the same game.
Not not that you you're saying that this game is is drastically
different in any way, but like this is a fun way of
differentiating them, which doesn't happen often, right,
like at all.

Oh, there's a thing on the
whale.

Submariner.
Yep, that's so funny.

Kind of, I mean, I know it kind
of looks like Aquaman and that's the idea, but or vice versa, but
yeah.

I I didn't think it was
possible, but he's kind of goofier than Aquaman.
Oh yeah.

He's got those little wings on
his feet.

It's like what?
Yeah, this person is just like watching it.
Yeah, it's.

Great.
Yeah, he's just ignoring.

He's got like the invincibility
thing on.

Yeah, I must.
Yeah.

Yeah.
So anyway, so I, I think I do, I do think you're right.
There are a lot of things in this that are good.
I do think that there's a lot to enjoy in here.
I just wish that the parts that

I didn't enjoy weren't as
frequent, the ones that frustrated me more than than
they would have otherwise and stuff.
So, you know, it's, it's rare for like it's rare for me to be,
to be sitting here going, Oh, I just, I hate what this, what
they were, they had to choose to do with the 64 version or with
the 64 version, the limitations of this cartridge of this
console or whatever.

Like I, we don't say that very
often.

We're we're pretty much like, I
know.

Well, that's it's good.
They did what they could.

And there's things you celebrate
about what it offers.

And I don't know, there was
something about that camera and some of the fights that just
irked me more than I thought they would.
And you know, we're looking at like the Mysterio fight,
something like this doesn't bother me.
Like, I like the way this function.
It's definitely different from the rest of them.
Like there's variation here.

There's a lot of fun to be had.
I just wish some of the parts that I didn't enjoy didn't bring
those down as much as I as I sort of anticipated they would.
So I like it.

It's definitely still worth
playing.

I do think that it's not a, it's
not a bad game.

I definitely am not.
I'm not leaning towards that.

Like like I said, I I think it's
the best superhero game on the

N64.
Yeah.

So when I looked up there's, I
mean technically.

I I it's just not the best
version of this game.

Well, I don't know.
I mean the way you talk.

I know the the Dreamcast version
would probably be the the tip of the top and the PC version was
also very very good.

I I did play the the GBA 1.
You mentioned that earlier I got my little anber neck and I and I
pulled that out because anytime there's a chance for me to play
the handheld version of these games I do it's fine.
It's.

Fine, this is best.
It's, it's fine.

It's it's a 2D, you know.
Yeah, and they made the sequel.

The only reason why I would tell
someone to play the PlayStation version because in my opinion
that's the worst version.

But it does have the cool
cutscenes.

That's pretty much what you're
gaining and it does have what if mode.
But the reason why I would say play the PlayStation version is
because the sequel as far as I'm aware is only on the PlayStation
1.

So you can play this and it's
sequel and it'll be.

It feels more natural that way
when you can play them on the same console and this you're not
visually like shocked or something like it looks you're.
Not relearning controls and things like.
That yeah, it just feels like that's that's the way to do it.
So that'd be almost why I would recommend playing the
PlayStation version and you can do what if so, but the N64
version, if that's what you got,

I mean, you'll be happy with it.
It visually looks.

Arguably it's one of the better
looking versions and.

Like and like we said before, it
definitely looks better than the

PlayStation one in my opinion.
Yeah, it looks better than the

PlayStation one.
It's somewhere between between

PlayStation and PC and Dreamcast
looks just like the PC version.

It's a very late N64 release.
Yeah, 2002 thousand.

I don't late late 2000.
Yeah, late 2000, so.

Very late, very late.
And then follow this up a year later, the Spider Man movie tie
in game a year or two later?

I'm not sure exactly.
Movie so.

Yeah, so it's gameplay wise,
it's very similar to that.

So if you like that game, you'll
like this game for sure.

It's just a little clunkier a
little earlier, but it's good and it's it's got more of a
comic book you feel than than those games have, which actually
makes me appreciate it a little bit more.
Yeah, which is why I like those, those comic books sort of, you
know, versions of the cutscenes.

I think I I like that style
choice.

Yeah, and just a brief
highlight, you can get fire webbing too.
It's in there.

That's right.
It's only a couple levels, but it's kind of cool and it just
makes the webbing orange and it melts stuff.
Yep, it's neat.

Use it against the the carnage
the symbiote stuff.

Yeah, the little pink symbiotes
that you have to, like, fight, they're like little, They're not
quite symbiotes.

They're like little goo.
Like sentient goo.

Whatever they call the version
that is like, I guess it's like.

A prototype thing I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Something like that.
Yeah.

The The funny thing about the
sequel that you mentioned, I wrote this down because I I find
this type of choice when it comes to titling movies or games
or stuff like that to be hilarious.
But it's Spider Man.

Colon.
Enter Colon.

Electro.
I didn't know there was a second colon in there.
Like.

Spider Man I.
Wonder if there were there were plan on making like enter venom,
enter lizard and you know, like that kind of thing.
And it was like the first of that.
But it's just like that's completely why can't it just be
enter Electro?

That just sounds fine.
It's almost like a pause in between and I'm just like this
is stupid.

Yeah, I don't know, but I can't
tell you.

It's it starts off immediately
with the X-Men tie in and voice actor, which is pretty cool.
Beast is there right away.

It's very, very much a
continuation of this game and the world of the 90s sort of
comic book.

So you get a little bit more of
that content, which, if you're like me, you're clamoring for
that.

And the X-Men 97 that came out,
Fantastic show.

Also very, very good.
And very hopeful that they're going to do a Spider Man reboot
of that 90s series so they can finish the flipping thing.
Because let me tell you, I'm so mad about it.
I'm so mad I watched that I watched the whole thing like
live on TV, like when it like I was watching it and the last
episode, you know, he goes to look for the real Mary Jane and
they that's where it ended.

They it was done after that.
They never, they never made an episode.
They never resolved it for years.
I thought I just never saw it because and so I went hunting
for it and could never find it and then only to find out that
Oh no, the series was cancelled after that and they never
reached the conclusion that's so that series is set up to like,
let's continue it.

Even more so than X-Men 97 was.
Really.

Let's do it.
Even more so like.

Finish it.
Geez, that's oh, that sucks.

I mean, regardless of what
medium that's in that kind of cut off like that is it was.
Such a popular series too.

It's very, very cool, obviously,
because this game is basically based off that.
It's a.

It's a time.
Spider Man, it's going to have a little extra love just because
of that alone, right?

Or attention because of that
alone.

So yeah, it's, it's a good game.
It's it's a good game.

I just, I, I, I had a hard time
getting past those frustrating points.
And, and that's what it is.

I think I'm frustrated with the
fact that I was frustrated with those, if that makes sense.
I wish, I wish those didn't bug me as much as they did.
Those elements of it.

Some of the boss fights,
especially the early stuff and that camera was absolutely
brutal to me.

I'm just so desensitized to it.
The cameras don't bother me.

I I really think that like I
really think this is a good game.
Like I wouldn't even say it's fine.
I would say it's good, Fair enough.
And, and we can, we can kind of divert the line there 'cause I
feel like you're sort of like directly in the middle.
I'm leaning a little, I'm not saying it's like perfect, but
I'm leaning a little bit more to like this is a really enjoyable
game.

It's early 3D controls.
And that's, that's its fault.

You know, if you're going to
fault something and not enjoy it because it's, it's that like you
can there, there's a good game in here and there's a lot to
appreciate about it.

And I think if you like Spider
Man, and especially if you like the 90s cartoon series.
You're really gonna love this game, so definitely like go
check it out.

Yeah.
And despite, yeah.

And despite my, my, my feelings
about those, those parts of it,

I don't disagree with anything
you just said.

Like that's the thing.
I I'm in like this weird sort of in between sort of feeling
about.

It well, you're objectively
looking at the like this is dated like we have better
things, we have better.

Everything we're playing, we're
playing a console from 25 years ago, 27 years ago, like
everything's dated so.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, which
is what I'm.

God damn it, Dave, but you're
right there.

There is Hammer.
Controls.

Suck it up, do better.
That's all I have to say.

Hey, ever try sucking less?
Ever try that?

I mean, no, I haven't.
Actually, come to think of it, no, I haven't.
Hey, if my 6 year old nephew can conquer the bridge in Mumbo's
mountain in Banjo Kazooie, anything is possible.
Any absolutely anything is possible.
OK, So yeah, Spider man, I, I'm with you.
People should play this.

I do think that it's worth it's
worth going through for the all the reasons that you said.
I I just had this.

Maybe it's just the mood I was
in.

I don't know what it was, but
but I but it's not like I didn't have a good time.
I was just buttoned up against things that that bumped my
enjoyment down more than I thought it would.
That's pretty much what it is.

But there's lots to like here
and definitely all the things you said, like if you are a 90s
comic and cartoon fan of Spider

Man or superheroes, this has a
lot in there that really feels like, oh, they, they put a lot
of attention to detail in in that part of this game and, and
that's, and that's fun and that's a huge positive.
So Spider Man, check it out.

N64, like the other versions
that Jiggy was talking about, there's something to like about
all those ones as well, including yeah.
And one thing I wanted to say to you, I saw we were watching the
the person play it and it was the end, It was the N64 version,
but it looked like they were playing it on emulation.
And I was noticing a lot of things that don't like glitches
and things that don't necessarily happen in the actual
version, right?

So I would almost say try to
play this on real hardware, just if you're having issues, maybe
maybe that's it.

Or maybe try emulating a
different version.

Maybe the N64 version doesn't
translate as well, that's which.

Happens quite often with 64
emulation, like it's not easy to emulate.
Many I was just noticing some weird like visual stuff like
when they're wall climbing and things.
Yeah, like clipping and things.

Like that, yeah, like clipping
and like they'd pop up and their model would be like above the
enemy and it didn't seem to bother them too much.
But I was kind of, I was noticing it and just the brief
like lookovers that I was doing of the gameplay.
So I just, I just feel like this may be one that you need to dial
in and find the version that's best for you.
But I.

Played.
I, I did the Everdrive version of this, not the physical one
like like you have, but I didn't, I didn't, I mean, I
didn't notice that that was an issue.
It could have been something that I just wasn't paying
attention to, but I have noticed from time to time games that
I've had a few minutes on Steam

Deck, for example, that is
emulated, but then emulated on the Everdrive.
The Everdrive one often does not have the same visual issues as
what I would see on on the Steam

Deck because of the the hardware
and all that.

So like even if it is a version
like that that I played there, that alone makes a difference.
So I do think you're right.

I think there might be something
to that if you don't have the cartridge itself, the way that I
played it is a pretty good backup and and way of of doing
it.

So it's possible that that was
something I ran into and I just didn't realize that it would
have been an emulation thing.

That's possible, yeah.
I don't.

Know give it a shot, but it's it
it you'll have fun spider man.

I do think so I'm trying to
think if there's like a tidbit, a tidbit of like that's going to
be the title of this episode.

You know, I, I, I, I spider man,
swing, swing.

Done swing and done swing.
Done.

Before we are done, Sir, let's
talk about your stuff.

So you've done a couple of
really cool videos recently, including one with with your
your nephew right as well.

So that's something that
definitely people should be checking out.
What else has been going on?

And also you've played, you've
very recently either finished or very close to finishing a game
that we did an episode.

On Oh man, I went back, we we
did Jeff force Gemini.

And at that point I had not ever
collected all the tribals.

And I'm like, you know what?
We're going to do it.

Which I remember we talked about
and thought this is an insane task.
And I did it.

And guess what?
Yes, it was an insane task because I was hoping to only
play Jet Force Gemini for two weeks, 3 weeks tops.
And I ended up going 4 weeks.

And two of those weeks we're
just collecting keys and tribals and ship parts.
So just picture that the first, the first two streams were me
just playing the game, getting to the point where I needed to
collect stuff, and then the last two streams were just collecting
everything I needed to finish the game and.
And and these aren't like Oh yeah I know I'm gonna stream for
like 2 hours or you're.

No, they're they're 4 hour
minimum.

Yeah, you're a machine.
You're a machine on Friday night that took a look back on
YouTube.

But yeah, it was fun though.
It was fun.

We got it done and now I can say
that hey, I collected all the tribals.
That's right, you could say that.
And one of the cool things was that, so I did it on NSO and I
used the switch to and the switch to.
If you didn't know NSO and 64 on switch to you have a rewind
function.

Oh, that's right, that's one of
the.

Things they added, yeah, so they
added it.

It's a switch to only thing.
Very helpful, especially in a game like Jet Force Gemini where
you accidentally kill a tribal.

Just rewind a little bit to
before you.

Feel it and then.
You collect it, which made the collecting process so much
better.

And I had one person on my
stream who was like, you're a cheater, you're cheating.
And I was like, you know what?

I was like, normally I would
never do this, but for this game, you got it.
I this is just modern amenity.

This is I need this.
Yeah.

It makes it more.
You're powering through, you're powering through in such like a
crazy way, like not in a bad way like it.
It's impressive that you did that.
You you got to take those little, those little add-ons.
Sometimes, sometimes you got to use the tools available to you.
Absolutely.

Although I would say I, I'd
always say like you should go through and just play a game the
way it was intended.

But you know, rewind functions
not too bad.

It's, it's, it's not like you
haven't played the game before and you're doing this added
thing that was like a, a, a climbing in Everest type of
thing that was not necessary.

Right, trying.
To have fun with it you're trying to like say like I, I did
this and it's not like you're fast forwarding or using a
Gameshark or like you know things like like it's, it's just
a little thing it's a little thing and, and I still applaud
you Sir for for for powering through no matter what tool you
utilize to to do it.

So that's Jiggy luck back on
YouTube, that's where you can find streams pretty much most if
not all Friday nights you're you're streaming something so.
Trying to.

Yeah, trying, trying to look
life gets in the way regardless of what night it is.
So things happen, but but you know, things like that, you can
watch epic things like that happen and your awesome videos
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And I feel like I'm forgetting
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I don't know, but I'm going to say that the the intro, there's
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Gotta love it, gotta have some
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Sprinkle that.
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flap.

Oh, really funny.
My, my friend, we used to, we used to do this thing.
I his friend, he he, he'd be like every day.
He's like, every day I wake up and I just do the test.
You know, I just did the test to see if maybe maybe I woke up or
maybe maybe I developed super powers in the middle of the
night and I got the spider man thing and he's like, and I was
like, are you serious?

And he's like, yes, because what
if?

Hey.
What if it happened?

Hey.
Leave you with that little tidbit What if?
Well, you know what?

When it comes to Spider Man
specifically, is it not like this?
It's probably a little bit of a myth, but is there another thing
like, oh, everybody eats 100 spiders in their lifetime in
their sleep or some some silly thing like that?
I don't know if it's actually true.
Maybe one of them was radioactive.
Hey, hey.

That's all I'm saying.
I think, I think, I think your friend was onto something, man.
He was on something, Yeah.

You were not onto it.
And I think that's AI think that's AU problem I think.
Well, now I do it every day.

You convinced me, I mean.
That was like that was like in high.
School too.

So now, just every day I wake up
and go, ah Dang it, not today.

All right, well, I guess I'll go
get some coffee.

Basically.
All right, fine.

I guess I'll walk the dog.
All right.

That's why Batman's my favorite
superhero burn ever.

Disappointed.
Jeez.

Jeez.
I know I'm not going to wake up a billionaire so.
Got to play the lottery.

Spider Man, there may be a
chance.

There's a better chance of
becoming Spider Man than than making.
What does that say about society that I'm like, there is more
hope that I wake up with spontaneous spider powers, that
I can shoot webs out of my wrist than becoming a billionaire?
I don't know, maybe it's maybe it's good.
Maybe it's good because it's fun that that possibility could be
there.

Yeah.
I want to live in that world.

Let's live in that world, Jiggy.
Let's live in that world.

What is good to chat to you?
Thanks everyone for watching and listening and we will see you
next time on Remember 64.

Goodbye.